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Originally Posted by Flash MacTavish

The right to carry law is in fact the second amendment is it not?

I often think that any country in the world could do worse than to adopt the US Constitution and the first ten amendments. Granted I would make the wording of the first and second a wee bit clearer.

Born in/sworn in to the US you're a Citizen.
In the UK you're a Subject.

Overlay that Brit (originally Monarch-centric) idea with 20th C Socialist logic (The State Must Be In Control), and you wind up where we are today: where individuals legitimately defending others (including their families) against violence, have a pretty good chance of being prosecuted, and an even better one of being told they 'should have stood back and called the appropriate authorities'

But right now, I can hear a thread drift indicator warning going off somewhere nearby . . .

old cooks knives can be modded about to make a decent outdoor blade, even the golok can be improved with a belt sander and a bit of polish.

here's some knife porn to revive those 80's passions. its unmodded there but I've tinkered a bit with one and excessiveley with another as it had a bad grind. no I dont leave the pins in and yes it works very well as a knife.

a knife shaped like a cock 1470s english

Originally Posted by DavidBOC

Clearly your views on liberal politicians aligns with mine.[snip]

I'm trying unsuccessfully to connect the idea of 'liberal' with the idea of Gordon Brown.

Whom I would happily gralloch with a blunt spoon.

Which brings me to Toe Knee B.Liar . . . I'd make him watch, then blunt the spoon a liddle bit more . . . .

Originally Posted by Flash MacTavish

The right to carry law is in fact the second amendment is it not?

I often think that any country in the world could do worse than to adopt the US Constitution and the first ten amendments. Granted I would make the wording of the first and second a wee bit clearer.

No Flash, different. The 2nd Amendment provides "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Over the years states created restrictions, some reasonable, some less so. It was not totally clear until fairly recently to degree to which the 2nd Amendment restricted the ability of states to control firearms (as opposed to the Federal government) Each state has controls to some degree but recent US Supreme Court cases (D.C vs Heller and McDonald vs Chicago) have restricted to some degree the ability of states get too restrictive as to ownership and use of firearms. Of course if Obama gets re-elected he will likely have a chance to change the makeup of the Court adding more liberals to the two he appointed and the two Clinton appointed and this might change things.

We are fortunate that passing amendments to our constitution is a difficult and drawn out process. I gather that in the UK it takes a simple act of parliament to toss out parts of Magna Carta and other laws that are considered part of your constitution.

The Eu UK passport says citizens not Subjects I believe, a pity as one apparently needs such a thing to visit the colonies!

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Originally Posted by Stonker

I was planning to assemble all my blades at the W/E, and post the whole lot in a one-er. However, this is an appropriate moment to introduce this li'l beauty, which occupies pride of place in the random jumble of cheapies that passes for my collection.

I got this dainty little thing when I was in my early teens (it even fitted my hand, back then - yes that's a Stonkermitt in the photo).

It had lain, unused for years, in an old toolbox in the garage, and had acquired the colour and patina of a dark nubuck leather, it was so rusty. It was also so blunt you could've ridden it bareback on a round trip to Jericho, and gotten nothing worse than bruised.

I took it to our local hardware store, and they sent it off to get sharpened. It got sharpened, all right: if I had a steady hand and enough nerve, you could get a decent shave with it today, although (partly for that reason) it hasn't been used (or needed further sharpening) since the day it came back.

It is my (late) father's Scout knife. He was born in 1928, so I guess it was bought just before/just after the start of WW2.

Imagine the coniptions (BTW - I'm looking to JJH now, for the correct spelling of this old Southern term ), if an entire Troop of 21st Century Boy Scouts were allowed to run around in En-ger-lund today, with such things hanging casually from their Scout belts . . . .

Got one of them think my lad has it now, my dad gave me one when i was ten.

Originally Posted by Mongo

You can have folding knives with a locking blade in a public place if you have a good reason for it. Going camping etc. The reasoning is, I believe, more geared towards people being stabbed with a locked blade as opposed to an unlocked one. No idea if that's correct though.

Mongo, I think you'll find that you need "lawful authority or reasonable excuse" regardless of where you are carrying an "illegal blade". It also depends a lot on the plod who stops you and finds the blade. If you are wandering around a town centre at kicking out time with a gang of mates and swinging off street signs and lamp posts you may expect to be pulled, have the blade confiscated, if you get lippy you may find yourself talking to someone called sarge who is filling out a thing called a charge sheet in a room thats has lots of doors off it with bars on small windows. Alternatively, if you are wearing walking gear, carrying a rucksack and appear to be an honest upright member of the community you'd probably get no bother.

If you check out the British Blades forum there are plenty of stories, opinions and incidents detailed to give an indication of what may befall a blade carrier. Other than that, if you need a pocket knife get a Spydie UKPK and you'll be legal.