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Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

There is some difference of opinion on that now - some RFDs (and Midway UK) are of the opinion that any pressure-bearing part of any arm requires notification to the plod. Irrelevant in any case in Devon and Cornwall, they're about 3 years behind on entering notifications of sale/acquisition and the only time they know what you've got is when they renew and the FEO comes round and has a look.

Pressure bearing parts need to be in a RFD register from memory. However, a shot gun certificate is held so you don't need to declare component parts. Have a look at Section 57 Firearms Act 1968, shot gun components aren't covered the same as firearms (Section 1) components.

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

They used to be mustard so I assume it's down to either budget cuts or the recruitment of mongs.

D&C had a few problems. Their licensing mgr got caught out BBC NEWS | UK | England | Devon | Ex-firearm boss cautioned for gun and it's never really (imo) managed to cover quite a large area with relatively few resources for a couple of years. They took staff away but expected the same service to be provided ....

Originally Posted by scalieback

D&C had a few problems. Their licensing mgr got caught out

Yes, so much for the mandatory 5-year prison sentence for possession of a prohibited wpn, eh?

They were still good for a couple of years after that; I know a lot of staff changed in the office (tho it seems the appallingly rude and bumptious Septic who worked there is gone, thank Christ), and the FEO seems to have a poor opinion of the competence of the new people.

I also had trouble when I discovered that FEOs (not my one) were 'suggesting' to farmers that they used the 'Police Deerstalking Club' to manage their deer (imagine a couple of dozen shaven-headed escapees from Rampton unconvincingly disguised in tweed jackets and carrying 'tactical' Tikkas, and with voices in their heads shouting "KILL ALL THE DEER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE"). They were distributing cards for them and all sorts.

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Yes, so much for the mandatory 5-year prison sentence for possession of a prohibited wpn, eh?

Yep, the exemption seems to be used so often you wonder why it was enacted.

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

They were still good for a couple of years after that; I know a lot of staff changed in the office (tho it seems the appallingly rude and bumptious Septic who worked there is gone, thank Christ), and the FEO seems to have a poor opinion of the competence of the new people.

As it was, it is, as it always will be. FEOs blame the office and the office blames the FEO. Never heard of the septic tbh.

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

I also had trouble when I discovered that FEOs (not my one) were 'suggesting' to farmers that they used the 'Police Deerstalking Club' to manage their deer (imagine a couple of dozen shaven-headed escapees from Rampton unconvincingly disguised in tweed jackets and carrying 'tactical' Tikkas, and with voices in their heads shouting "KILL ALL THE DEER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE"). They were distributing cards for them and all sorts.

Really? That's an abuse of privilege if ever I heard of one. They should write to the Chief Constable.

I'm not a great fan of 'kill all the deer' except during culls of hinds and doe's I suppose, even then you need to leave some breeding stock.

Originally Posted by scalieback

Really? That's an abuse of privilege if ever I heard of one. They should write to the Chief Constable.

Someone did, though not in reference to any specific names. The CC agreed and I heard later that pre-emptive ballockings were sent out to all FEOs and the Armed Droolers themselves.

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Someone did, though not in reference to any specific names. The CC agreed and I heard later that pre-emptive ballockings were sent out to all FEOs and the Armed Droolers themselves.

Good. I may be in a minority, but I hate people abusing privileges like that. Now, if you can just give me a discount for producing my MoD90

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Someone did, though not in reference to any specific names. The CC agreed and I heard later that pre-emptive ballockings were sent out to all FEOs and the Armed Droolers themselves.

Its a popular tactic in Kent, a bit of ground comes up because a new stalker has managed to bag ground and the FEO wont clear it to a deer calibre but offers the services of a friend or serving plod to help the farmer out!

Originally Posted by ugly

Its a popular tactic in Kent, a bit of ground comes up because a new stalker has managed to bag ground and the FEO wont clear it to a deer calibre but offers the services of a friend or serving plod to help the farmer out!

If that's genuine, someone should be writing to this lot: Making a Complaint - Kent Police | Kent Police Authority

01622 652323
professional.standards@kent.pnn.police.uk

If it's misinformation eg the land owner wants a deer rifle and has never used anything before in his life, refuses to go on a DSC course or equivalent; it should be treated as such. For a start, how can a FEO not clear land but recommend the land to a different certificate holder?

Come on Ugly, I know you dislike plod and particularly plod firearms licensing; but you can do better imo.

Nope I was viewing a piece of ground to manage the deer, the lad wanted to do fox on it and the farmer wanted the deer done. The lad who bagged the rights had a rake of BASC courses and was happy to do a deer course with me but the local feo wouldnt clear the ground when asked for .243. No particular risks in my opinion as there were few footpaths on the 1000acres and a fair few backstops and high seats were there from the previous open ticket user. The FEO just wanted his mate to shoot it.
In my opinion the farmer was a bit mad. I offered him the going rate and he didnt get back to me. Never mind no loss as it was a fair distance to travel.