Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

There was just a rozzer on the Today programme, I missed the start so not sure if serving or former, who was remarkably sensible. Blamed it on slack licencing, said the law was fine but the implementation shoddy, and pointed out that the post-Dunblane ban has had no effect whatsoever on armed crime.

Indeed, I nearly choked on my vastly overpriced coffee.

T'was Roger Gray

Roger Gray - Tactical Advisor and Author - Trojan Files, Armed Response

IIRC he said something like

"the framework of law is sufficient, it is the application of the framework which needs to be looked at."

Rather suspect that Radio 4 was hoping for someone with a far more "correct" ban everything attitude. Sadly for them they got someone who pointed out the elephant that has been in the room for decades

Originally Posted by Blogg

Rather suspect that Radio 4 was hoping for someone with a far more "correct" ban everything attitude. Sadly for them they got someone who pointed out the elephant that has been in the room for decades

Possibly not, I just heard a bulletin, and the tone was 'why wasn't his certificate pulled?' rather than 'why are people allowed such things?'

I would hesitate to suggest that the BBC are starting to behave like grownups about firearms, but they may perhaps be approaching their late teens.

However, according to the BBC, the police: "are expected to focus on why he owned six guns."

Now call me simple, if you like, but I would be "focussing" on the circumstances that led him to use one of them to kill members of his family.

As to "Psycho", I wonder if GMP will be "focussing" on how he managed to own even one handgun. I doubt it!

It is the usual reaction to these events, if the gun was licensed, lets focus on the weapon not the person but a completely different set of criteria if the weapon used was illegal.

Originally Posted by panzerknacker

Salford shooting: 20-year-old accused of killing student Anuj Bidve tells court his name is 'Psycho Stapleton' | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

According to young Mr Stapleton, one of Ordsall's finest, he refers to himself as Psycho, I think it will soon be Spitroasted rather than Psycho.

Now there's a good point, our Mr Psycho here obviously had a firearms licence for the weapon he used because Mr Blair took all the guns of the streets now didn't he?.

Compare and contrast with our septic "friends"

Americans buy record numbers of guns for Christmas - Telegraph

Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB

I think you may be onto something there, Chief Inspector.

He's got no hope. No one gets to those heady heights using such gender specific language. Gun person would be better.

This linik provides a sane view of the matter and it's from a senior police officer!
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His blog does contain a certain amount of cynicism flavoured with bitter and twisted, no doubt caused by the burden of incompetant idiots from on high.
Sounds vaguely familiar.

Perhaps ACPO have realised with call me dave in charge its the end of pc world!!!!!
Thank fuck if it is I can get back to being a white middle aged bigot!

I despair every time I see some firearms/shotgun related incident like this (I note that the media either don't understand or cynically refuse to explain the differences between licences) allthough pleasantly surprised that the previous taxi driver nutter incident didn't spawn a knee-jerk reaction I keep expecting additional legislation...

This is purely personal interest based, having only just got around to getting certified and building up my "arsenal" I keep expecting to get it all taken away again...

*** Please note, I am not a Taxi Driver ***

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I have just responded, he seems a sensible chap but some of the comments are pretty priceless and posted by pricks and numpties.


Well as a shooter professional and recreational I welcome the common sense approach and I dont read the printed press so discount them anyway. As an ex soldier I have worked... with Police in difficult situations and know its not an easy career even over this side of the Irish sea! Now if ACPO aka the fundraising arm of the politically biased PC World brigade can temper their enthusiasm for more legislation then perhaps some good can come from this. In fact a cynic would say we should be banning taxi drivers, in fact a sick cynic would say perhaps that removing himself and offspring from the gene pool with firearms was infinitely better and less of a danger to the public than him taking a cab full of drunken geordies down the A1 and into the path of a school bus. Perhaps he has done us all a favour.
Durham Police get the wally quote of the day though, “I’d like to assure everyone that Durham Police are in charge and will be innvestigating this case!” Crystal Ball failure? Methinks they have a Ouija board on issue if they are going to find everything out.
You cant legislate against lunacy and the latest PNC flavour shows FAC and SGC holders but without a human to make the link and ask its still an expensive and possibly pointless addition to your armoury.
As for banning guns? Perhaps banning expressing opinions on subjects people know little about would be more sensible!