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**Bravo2nothing** · 25-01-2010, 17:32

Gentlemen, as always, very useful information.

Many thanks!

**Gun_Nut** · 25-01-2010, 17:32

All good advice.

I would add in a 0.44 Black Powder revolver if you have access to a gallery range and like the idea of coming home smelling of bad eggs. The 0.38/0.357 gallery rifles also seem to be more popular than the 0.44s. You could also go wild and add in a 0.357 long barrelled revolver.

If you get seriously bit by the rifle bug, you might want to consider adding in an 'accuracy' calibre to plan for the day when you will upset your wife by buying a custom rifle. I would suggest adding either a 6mm or 6.5mm slot as these cover a multitude of different sins.

**Biped** · 25-01-2010, 17:36

WHAT!?!?!? I know the .22-250 is a fast round, but that's just ridiculous! It's a diddy (albeit a bit quick) bullet is all. Even with the fastest load, it's only developing around 1,600ft/lb at about 4,000fps. It's also got pretty much the most range available when it comes to loads of any bullet out there.

I don't understand what this 'specification' would be, if not muzzle energy. It can't be down to velocity, surely.

**EX_STAB** · 25-01-2010, 17:48

Originally Posted by Biped

WHAT!?!?!? I know the .22-250 is a fast round, but that's just ridiculous! It's a diddy (albeit a bit quick) bullet is all. Even with the fastest load, it's only developing around 1,600ft/lb at about 4,000fps. It's also got pretty much the most range available when it comes to loads of any bullet out there.

I don't understand what this 'specification' would be, if not muzzle energy. It can't be down to velocity, surely.

It's velocity.

A maximum calibre of .577” and a maximum muzzle velocity of 3275 ft/sec (1000m/s) and a maximum muzzle energy of 5160ft. Lbs. (7000 Joules)>> Same on most MOD gallery ranges.

Naturally it's quicker to find this information on the BASC website than the NRA's!

http://www.basc.org.uk/en/in-your-ar...d-stalking.cfm

http://www.nra.org.uk/common/files/r...egulations.pdf

**105AVRE** · 25-01-2010, 18:35

i had to put down .308 bolt action rifle AND 7.62x51 bolt action rifle as 2 separate entries on my application...Lancs Constabulary also wanted to see my club shooting record for amounts of ammo.........stazi bacon

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**Flying Felix** · 25-01-2010, 18:46

Originally Posted by 105AVRE

i had to put down .308 bolt action rifle AND 7.62x51 bolt action rifle as 2 separate entries on my application...Lancs Constabulary also wanted to see my club shooting record for amounts of ammo.........stazi bacon

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I moved counties as Lancs were being TWats.

Also if you want 7.62 x 51 always ask for "308/7.62" for your ammo.

Some places will not sell you 308 if only 7.62 is listed on your ticket.

**Biped** · 25-01-2010, 18:48

Ex-Stab - sorry, my Acrobat's not working, so I can't see if there's an explanation for the velocity rule. The .22-250 won't go further than a .308, no matter how badly ND'd it is, so what gives?

**EX_STAB** · 25-01-2010, 18:55

Originally Posted by Flying Felix

Originally Posted by 105AVRE

i had to put down .308 bolt action rifle AND 7.62x51 bolt action rifle as 2 separate entries on my application...Lancs Constabulary also wanted to see my club shooting record for amounts of ammo.........stazi bacon

!

I moved counties as Lancs were being TWats.

Also if you want 7.62 x 51 always ask for "308/7.62" for your ammo.

Some places will not sell you 308 if only 7.62 is listed on your ticket.

Lancs are noted for being twats.

**EX_STAB** · 25-01-2010, 18:57

Originally Posted by Biped

Ex-Stab - sorry, my Acrobat's not working, so I can't see if there's an explanation for the velocity rule. The .22-250 won't go further than a .308, no matter how badly ND'd it is, so what gives?

The explanation is that that is what the MoD say it is. It's an arbitrary figure of 1000m/s

**Biped** · 25-01-2010, 19:00

Originally Posted by EX_STAB

Originally Posted by Biped

Ex-Stab - sorry, my Acrobat's not working, so I can't see if there's an explanation for the velocity rule. The .22-250 won't go further than a .308, no matter how badly ND'd it is, so what gives?

The explanation is that that is what the MoD say it is. It's an arbitrary figure of 1000m/s

Ta for that. Arbitrary being the case in point. No sense to the rule, unless it's a .308 or something, and you'd blow your face off if you tried to lob a .308 at 1000m/s with anything commercially available.