Yes and no. If a soft lead projectile hits a soft target, eg some scrotes a*se end then there will be rifling marks on the pellet, if on the other hand it hits something really hard then the pellet will deform so much that the rifling marks will be useless. Therefore make certain that the scrote is standing in front of a brick wall when you shoot. That or resort to Bipeds method. That resounding thwack of timber on bone is most satisfying, :D unless its your head of course. :(

I've a friend who uses 12 bore loaded with rock salt to discourage predation around his lakes.

I think anything active you do is probably risky, and at the very least leave you liable to retribution and escalation.. the term "..with malice aforethought" is the phrase that will be used if anything goes wrong.

Using "Alarm Mines" in any way that poses a direct threat to an individual will be considered illegal.

Plod and the courts are, at the end of the day, more interested in maintianing their hold on authority than trying to defend yours...

Originally Posted by Biped

For £30, I can sell you an alarm mine with 20 blanks.

is dey like, legaw?

no really are they? i have thought about their use but don't know where one stands on their use in an urban setting.

Much less hi-tech and prone to being discovered. A bit of wood, some string and a sharpened smaller bit of wood. Old-fashioned home made bow and arrow. Or failing that, a Black Widow catapult and some nice bits of flint.

Originally Posted by Mr_Deputy

Originally Posted by Biped

For £30, I can sell you an alarm mine with 20 blanks.

is dey like, legaw?

no really are they? i have thought about their use but don't know where one stands on their use in an urban setting.

Alarm mines are a potentially sticky subject...

Plod has not shown much interest in them as they are not widely known about and are a (sort of) legit way of dealing with poachers..

What you do is to set them in coveys etc so that anyone creeping about (both two and four legged) will cause a loud noise and make the quarry fly away. The target is NOT the poacher - the aim is to scatter the birds..

If you start to use them for attacking/scaring people, plod will become VERY upset and leave no stone unturned etc...

..also they may try to ban them - this will annoy Ugly and the inhabitants of the shooting forum who will then come after YOU (and they are better armed.. )

SO DON'T - JUST DON'T...

thought so. I'll stick to trip wires, locks and punji sticks. against the foxes obviously.

Originally Posted by EX_STAB

Originally Posted by bigeye

Originally Posted by EX_STAB

Here ya go:
http://www.solwayfeeders.com/Product...TOCK_CODE=1636

Just the job. Thanks.

No doubt they can be adapted for a slightly more 'memorable' warning?

No. If you use them with a live shotgun cartridge it will just go "phut" and burst as the pressure isn't maintained as it is in a barrel. If you convert it to, say, a six inch barrel you have a section 5 prohibited weapon and will be going down for far longer than the scrotes.

Use it exactly as it comes in the box with the blanks that are recommended for it. It'll do the trick.

If you want to do a memorable modification adapt the cartridge holder to allow you to load the longer Eley 'Yachting Blanks' designed for starting races. They go like b*ggery compared with the little blanks. You could always try wrapping them in something to increase the noise, or wrap them in powdered paint in a bag. Mark the f*ckers

Originally Posted by JonnoJonno

Originally Posted by EX_STAB

Originally Posted by bigeye

Originally Posted by EX_STAB

Here ya go:
http://www.solwayfeeders.com/Product...TOCK_CODE=1636

Just the job. Thanks.

No doubt they can be adapted for a slightly more 'memorable' warning?

No. If you use them with a live shotgun cartridge it will just go "phut" and burst as the pressure isn't maintained as it is in a barrel. If you convert it to, say, a six inch barrel you have a section 5 prohibited weapon and will be going down for far longer than the scrotes.

Use it exactly as it comes in the box with the blanks that are recommended for it. It'll do the trick.

If you want to do a memorable modification adapt the cartridge holder to allow you to load the longer Eley 'Yachting Blanks' designed for starting races. They go like b*ggery compared with the little blanks. You could always try wrapping them in something to increase the noise, or wrap them in powdered paint in a bag. Mark the f*ckers

it would certainly mark them. A bag of powdered paint would probably ignite with a thunderous flash singing hair and flesh.

What a splendid idea.

AFAIK, Alarm mines are not illegal for use in warning of a scumbag on his property. No more illegal than a loud alarm on the side of a house.

Hope that answers the question.

They become illegal when used in a manner that deliberately aims to injure the burglar.