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Originally Posted by viceroy

mmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhh, what a magnificent firearm. if only all you SLR warshippers knew what it feels like to fire one of those...

Pfuhhhh!

Originally Posted by ugly

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"W. W. GREENER
A LITTLE USED, CASED, MARTINI ACTION 'GREENER'S LIGHT HARPOON GUN', serial no. 336,
take-down nickel finish example, proofed for .38 Special Blank, 14.5GRs No.5 Cordite, 16 oz. harpoon, manual safety lever, action engraved 'W. W. GREENER. MAKER. Birmingham. ENGLAND.' and 'GREENER'S LIGHT HARPOON GUN.', in its wood case with lines, guides and harpoons, together with a partial box of Greener Light Harpoon Gun blank cartridges

Provenance: The makers have kindly supplied us with the following information:

"The above gun is from the Greener collection of firearms. It was made in the 1950s and like W.W. Greener's single-barrel General Purpose (GP) shotgun is based on the Martini action. It was made and sold as a kit which included three harpoons, two line guides and six lines, and it was housed in a wooden box with two cleaning rods, brushes and mops for cleaning both barrel and harpoons.

"Last year this harpoon gun was loaned to Claussen Wobke Putz Filmproduktion GmBH in Germany and featured in 'Riskante Patienten' a film made for television."



Literature: The Lot is accompanied by a supporting letter of provenance from the makers, together with two short coloured brochures on instruction for use and images received by the makers of the harpoon gun in use.

Other Notes: The Greener Light Harpoon Gun is probably best well known to the general public being wielded by Robert Shaw as the inimitable 'Quint' in the 1975 classic thriller 'Jaws'
Estimate £2,000-2,500

S1"

I don't suppose that little toy was make for a certain author who took a liking to fishing for basking sharks off the West coast of Scotland just after the last war?

I could certainly use one for some mischief out here, plenty things to sink that tasty little harpoon into.

Edit to add: If it was made for said author, it was found wanting as he had to seriously increase his firepower after a couple of attempts.

Originally Posted by viceroy

Originally Posted by Munter Hunter

Again, tell me more as I've just bought a BSA 1942 No.1 Mk.III*.

Is there some issue with the extractor & spring that I can avoid?

What about shooting round nose bullets...I've read that certain magazines (later ones) don't like them?


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mmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhh, what a magnificent firearm. if only all you SLR warshippers knew what it feels like to fire one of those...

Got both.
Oh no, wait a moment, my CH-AK is a Stgw.

Mine was bought for a girl to shoot, so the SP (Super Poncey) version seemed perfect at the time. On reflection though the LB might have been the better choice.

Anyhow all things aside, it's still .223 and is gayer than satan's mudbutton compared to the SLR.



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Mosin-Nagant of Finnish extraction.

The "no expanding ammunition on ranges" thing is, as I understand it, a bit of double fuckwittery..

Although the law both bans and requires expanding ammunition, (and it must have taken a double star in statute drafting to come up with that one..!) The limitation on the use of expanding ammuniton on a range is not strictly a legal one..

It comes about in two ways..

1. Plod will not give you authority to hold expanding ammunition for weapons which are held for target shooting, which is sort of fair enough.. although pointless in many ways!

2. The MOD, in a fit of solidarity, then banned the use of expanding ammunition on MOD ranges. There is absolutely no logic or justification for this, apart from f*cking people about. Having discussed the point some years ago with a member of the Ordnace Board, it is actually much safer to shoot expanding ammunition on a range as it prevents "popout" of spent projectiles from the stop butt. The safety trace for expanding ammunion is significantly less than for FMJ as richochets tend to have the ballistic characteristics of a sideboard.

3. Some Plod also try to interpret the law in such a way as to say that you cannot use a weapon, held for sporting purposes, on a range. Again this is completely unjustifiable. Any sporting rifle needs to be zeroed and sporting shooters need to practice; the proper place to do this is on a range..

So AFAIC, you can use expanding ammuniton on a non MOD range. I suspect that the MOD ruling is widely ignored, and should be challenged, however I can't see that happening soon...

Originally Posted by Munter Hunter

Anyhow all things aside, it's still .223 and is gayer than satan's mudbutton compared to the SLR.

On which subject, I got to fire an SLR (straight-pull) for the first time in about twenty five years. It was like we had never been parted. Although, due to lack of gas mechanism, the characteristic "clang" was missing.

I can't 'er indoors understanding the amount of money that I would have to pay to have one of my very own however.

Originally Posted by HE117

Plod will not give you authority to hold expanding ammunition for weapons which are held for target shooting

They can't, rather than won't.

On the subject of safety, I sold my Winchester '94 because I was no long allowed to use semi-jacketed ammo in it and didn't fancy the idea of having FMJ spitzers resting on the primer of the preceding rounds in the magazine when I pulled the trigger.

Originally Posted by Beerhunter

They can't, rather than won't.

Well they can actually - a CC and the HO has a surprising amount of leeway when it comes to the bit, however what you say is generally correct in all but the most exceptional cases..