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**Auld-Yin** · 03-07-2011, 23:04

Originally Posted by Yeah_Innit_Blud

I know a SSgt who has been in the army for 35 years, he's reeeally senior.

That will probably do it. Can't be Billy Mott or any Conductor chappy as they are Warrant Officers, not Senior NCOs.

**LancePrivateJones** · 03-07-2011, 23:05

Originally Posted by BCFC Sam

it says here that conductor is but it is Wikipedia
Conductor (Army) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They don't 'Conduct' anything, buses electricity or bands.

This argument has had tons of threads and the consensus has always been GSM LonDist or Academy Sergeant Major RMA Sandhurst.

I reckon it's GSM Londist myself.

Edited to add : Of course pedants will say that the senior NCO is a Staff Sergeant but I thnk the OP means highest person sans commission.

**Roadster280** · 03-07-2011, 23:06

Originally Posted by Yeah_Innit_Blud

I know a SSgt who has been in the army for 35 years, he's reeeally senior.

It's probably him then, since WOs aren't NCOs. I'd think the answer is the SSgt/CSgt/other equivalent rank with the most time in that rank. If there's more than one with the same length of service, then precedence of the line.

That said, there's probably some crusty old NRPS SQMS somewhere who joined up in nineteen canteen. They're usually staffies.

**putteesinmyhands** · 03-07-2011, 23:10

Originally Posted by Yeah_Innit_Blud

I know a SSgt who has been in the army for 35 years, he's reeeally senior.

Sprog......

**stacker1** · 03-07-2011, 23:18

Originally Posted by LancePrivateJones

They don't 'Conduct' anything, buses electricity or bands.

This argument has had tons of threads and the consensus has always been GSM LonDist or Academy Sergeant Major RMA Sandhurst.

I reckon it's GSM Londist myself.

Edited to add : Of course pedants will say that the senior NCO is a Staff Sergeant but I thnk the OP means highest person sans commission.

This site reckon its the glorious loggies...
British Army Non-Commissioned Officer Rank Structure: Warrant Officer - UK's #1 Community: Navy, Marines, Army, RAF

**LancePrivateJones** · 03-07-2011, 23:25

Originally Posted by stacker1

This site reckon its the glorious loggies...
British Army Non-Commissioned Officer Rank Structure: Warrant Officer - UK's #1 Community: Navy, Marines, Army, RAF

I know Stacker, the argument has been going on for years hasn't it?

I have always thought of AcSM and GSM Londist because of their high profile appointments.

I'm going GSM Londist because of the new badge that HM just gave him, and because it is a unique appointment.

Conductors probably have de jure seniority but I reckon GSM Londist has the de facto gig.

**Roadster280** · 03-07-2011, 23:28

So if AcSM, GSM Londist and an RLC Cdr go to a Mess dinner which is not any of their own Messes, who sits higher up the table? My money's on the loggie. That said, if you get to be that senior, you're probably smart enough to avoid situations like that.

**LancePrivateJones** · 03-07-2011, 23:31

Originally Posted by roadster280

So if AcSM, GSM Londist and an RLC Cdr go to a Mess dinner which is not any of their own Messes, who sits higher up the table? My money's on the loggie. That said, if you get to be that senior, you're probably smart enough to avoid situations like that.

According to Stacker's link it's the Conductor, if them's the rules then them's the rules.

**Gremlin** · 03-07-2011, 23:34

The top boys are all technically equal:

THE QUEEN'S REGULATIONS FOR THE ARMY 1975
(Amendment No 26) February 2000 Refers

Appointments and Precedence 9.169. Warrant Officers Warrant Officer – class 1
(i)
Conductor, RLC
Royal Artillery Sergeant Major
Academy sergeant major, RMAS
Garrison sergeant major London District
(ii)
Master gunner, RA.
(iii)
Garrison sergeant major (except London District).
(iv)
Regimental corporal major
Regimental sergeant major.
Bandmaster
Staff sergeant major. RLC or AGC(SPS)
Sergeant major

However some are more equal that others.

The GSM LONDIST may have a shiny new badge (pun intended), but the AcSM has had one for ages and still ranks as the top from what I can see.

I have a vague memory that it's the AcSM that hosts the RSMs conference when it's held (if it still is anymore).

**LancePrivateJones** · 03-07-2011, 23:41

So it comes down to senior appointment rather than senior NCO (sic).

I reckon the actual appointment responsibilities reflect any implied seniority so draw your own conclusions.

The argument will go on and on etc.......