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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

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    No banker I am not joking.
    I recognise your graph for what it says. What it doesn't say is that there is reason to believe that in the history of the plant there have been similar events, its just that this time round it is recorded for us to panic about.


    Does it explain why there is a big plunge in CO2 in the 16th century? or why the rise paused in 1800?
    Well, it was farking chilly back in the 17th C. look how many times the Thames froze... Not saying that this is evidence for a relationship between CO2 and °C, but deffo brass monkeys.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Thames_frost_fairs
    But why the drop - I've never found anything in the historical record about the Earl of Leicester having his Hummer confiscated.

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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

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    No banker I am not joking.
    I recognise your graph for what it says. What it doesn't say is that there is reason to believe that in the history of the plant there have been similar events, its just that this time round it is recorded for us to panic about.


    Does it explain why there is a big plunge in CO2 in the 16th century? or why the rise paused in 1800?
    Well, it was farking chilly back in the 17th C. look how many times the Thames froze... Not saying that this is evidence for a relationship between CO2 and °C, but deffo brass monkeys.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Thames_frost_fairs
    But why the drop - I've never found anything in the historical record about the Earl of Leicester having his Hummer confiscated.
    well, I wasn't around then, but this might help:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

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    No banker I am not joking.
    I recognise your graph for what it says. What it doesn't say is that there is reason to believe that in the history of the plant there have been similar events, its just that this time round it is recorded for us to panic about.


    Does it explain why there is a big plunge in CO2 in the 16th century? or why the rise paused in 1800?
    Well, it was farking chilly back in the 17th C. look how many times the Thames froze... Not saying that this is evidence for a relationship between CO2 and °C, but deffo brass monkeys.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Thames_frost_fairs
    But why the drop - I've never found anything in the historical record about the Earl of Leicester having his Hummer confiscated.
    well, I wasn't around then, but this might help:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
    A description of rapid climate change that cannot remotely be linked to anthropomorphic causes? You're right, it helped a great deal and I'd love to hear St Albert of Gore talk us through it.

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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

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    A description of rapid climate change that cannot remotely be linked to anthropomorphic causes? You're right, it helped a great deal and I'd love to hear St Albert of Gore talk us through it.
    did you read the bit on causes? I know it is Wiki, but they do suggest some anthropogenic influences.

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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

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    A description of rapid climate change that cannot remotely be linked to anthropomorphic causes? You're right, it helped a great deal and I'd love to hear St Albert of Gore talk us through it.
    did you read the bit on causes? I know it is Wiki, but they do suggest some anthropogenic influences.
    What? Based on the population levels/industrial output of the Late Tudor Period? B0llocks. Also, why no dip around the time of the first Black Death impacts? Surely losing a third of the Eurasian population would be significant, particularly since population levels were higher than those of the Late Tudor Period and the technology and industrial outputs were much the same?

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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

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    A description of rapid climate change that cannot remotely be linked to anthropomorphic causes? You're right, it helped a great deal and I'd love to hear St Albert of Gore talk us through it.
    did you read the bit on causes? I know it is Wiki, but they do suggest some anthropogenic influences.
    I did read it.
    Smells awfully like trying to adjust the theory to meet the facts doesn't it? :D
    This is the problem we keep coming back to, an lot of this climate change theory hinges unproven hypothesis.
    The fact that there was a dip in temperatures in the middle ages without associated man made factors puts a bit of a dent in the theory. No man made factors associated with the subsequent warm up period either.....

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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

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    A description of rapid climate change that cannot remotely be linked to anthropomorphic causes? You're right, it helped a great deal and I'd love to hear St Albert of Gore talk us through it.
    did you read the bit on causes? I know it is Wiki, but they do suggest some anthropogenic influences.
    I did read it.
    Smells awfully like trying to adjust the theory to meet the facts doesn't it? :D
    This is the problem we keep coming back to, an lot of this climate change theory hinges unproven hypothesis.
    The fact that there was a dip in temperatures in the middle ages without associated man made factors puts a bit of a dent in the theory. No man made factors associated with the subsequent warm up period either.....

    Gadzooks Sir! Did thee not fee all thofe Tudor infernal combustion engined horfeless carriagef that were plying the Kingf Highwayf?
    Think of a herd of cats briefly all moving in the same direction due to a random quantum fluctuation...


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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

    On a parallel thread I posed this challenge:

    To anyone who believes in the myth of AGW...can you name one, just one example fo the damage done by global warming...such as one island swamped the oceans, a tribe that has disappeared, etc.

    Please, just one example.

    This is my last post on this topic...I off to enjoy some sun and surf,

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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedCoat2009
    On a parallel thread I posed this challenge:

    To anyone who believes in the myth of AGW...can you name one, just one example fo the damage done by global warming...such as one island swamped the oceans, a tribe that has disappeared, etc.

    Please, just one example.

    This is my last post on this topic...I off to enjoy some sun and surf,
    Then according to Al Gore, you must be in Newcastle.

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    Re: Global Warming... a hoax?

    Interesting arguments. On the one side we've the majority of global scientific opinion, on the other, reactionary fcukwits spouting oil-industry financed, pseudo scientific arrse-dribble.
    choices, choices....
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