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Slaughter,

I agree, Liney555 is making a bold statement based on myth. Everyone jumps on the 'lets slag off Blandford' bandwagon as they probably had a bad time in training because they were usually a turd themselves or did not make the most of it, however the joining a club comment is not a bad idea at all. There is a huge scope to get involved in numerous activities that you wont get out in the field Army.

It is also very true that the recruits now have to jump through a good few more hoops than any of us needed to to pass out of Blandford and the quality and depth of training being delivered is in many places far superior than the "find the cellotape" approach to fault finding that we had.

There is clearly more room for improvement and the retraining/removal of some of the 'old school' instructors with young keen and experienced instructors as well as bringing up to date the kit and experience can only improve it, but only if the right guys volunteer.

If you think that discipline has disappeared, this is a fallacy as I am reliably informed that the AGAI books are regularly deployed with working weekends and ROPs dished out when required.

To answer your 'walking around with a mobile on' comment, well according to orders they are not allowed mobile telephones at all during working hours and had you read orders you could have then educated the soldier and reported them to the CofC for the correct retraining.

Originally Posted by Evils 2iC

according to orders they are not allowed mobile telephones at all during working hours and had you read orders you could have then educated the soldier and reported them to the CofC for the correct retraining.

Mein Gott! Vie in der Gestapo vud haf been proud of the vay sie ist "retraining" der lower ranks. Ist possible you could send zem to Catterick fur more ov dis "re-structuring"? I like the zound ov dis "educating the soldier" und zen reporting zem to zer higher ups.

Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!

Originally Posted by timebandit

No all paint jobs done at DSG even on armour!


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Unglaublich.

Originally Posted by SgtSlaughter

Bollox

The standard of trainee leaving Blandford is better than it has been for a long time.

Was it different in your day? Did you get thrashed to within an inch of your life by the RP's on a daily basis?

If you seen a Phase 2 cutting about on their mobile did you do anything about it or did you just walk on by muttering to yourself? If you reported it they would have been bounced. I don't know any camp training or not that people get away with walking around on their mobiles.

They have enforced sports afternoons and troop training evenings so have considerably less free time than I had 11 years ago but the standard of basic soldiering is higher. They now have to pass a CMSR and BCCS course before being allowed to clear.

Waiting for trade training is rare. The Army can't afford to have untrained soldiers just sitting around so you get loaded on to a basic training date that sets you up to start trade training very soon after at Blandford.

Maybe it's just as well it was your last time in Blandford. there is a sign up that states it is a Phase 2 training establishment and the highest standard of turnout and bearing is expected, Did you set that standard and advise the Phase 2's on how they could improve?

I've said about it before, and having discussed it with a number of my peers jnco and SNCO they all say the same. Again I have said it before but just take a wander around the accommodation area, specifically the portakabin and bin areas. Honking.

During my training days there we would have been in the shizzle for that.

When you mention about rp's I was one there and going off your post about 11 years ago, i may well have been one of those issuing out the 'mark time' also when speaking to the current RP's it would appear that they cannot 'get away' with half the stuff we could, I must add when needed and if the recruit admitted to being a tech.

Yes I did kindly ask him to get off his phone but even then he questioned me, this was by the zebra crossing leading down to where anson and benbow were.

As for the trainees on arrival to their unit, one must question why they are failing bpfa's at 20 years old. When asked they mention that they don't do much phys in Blandford and also boast about how easy it is to go and 'doss' in their accommodation for the day.

Regards.

Originally Posted by Evils 2iC

Slaughter,

I agree, Liney555 is making a bold statement based on myth. Everyone jumps on the 'lets slag off Blandford' bandwagon as they probably had a bad time in training because they were usually a turd themselves or did not make the most of it, however the joining a club comment is not a bad idea at all. There is a huge scope to get involved in numerous activities that you wont get out in the field Army.

It is also very true that the recruits now have to jump through a good few more hoops than any of us needed to to pass out of Blandford and the quality and depth of training being delivered is in many places far superior than the "find the cellotape" approach to fault finding that we had.

There is clearly more room for improvement and the retraining/removal of some of the 'old school' instructors with young keen and experienced instructors as well as bringing up to date the kit and experience can only improve it, but only if the right guys volunteer.

If you think that discipline has disappeared, this is a fallacy as I am reliably informed that the AGAI books are regularly deployed with working weekends and ROPs dished out when required.

To answer your 'walking around with a mobile on' comment, well according to orders they are not allowed mobile telephones at all during working hours and had you read orders you could have then educated the soldier and reported them to the CofC for the correct retraining.

Good comments. As for the reading orders thing I was only there on a flying visit with my staffy, I'd have thought the mobile thing was a pretty basic standard to be set, walking around with a mobile as a crow is similar to walking on the grass near RHQ, it's just instilled in to ones brain not to do it.

Originally Posted by liney555

I've said about it before, and having discussed it with a number of my peers jnco and SNCO they all say the same. Again I have said it before but just take a wander around the accommodation area, specifically the portakabin and bin areas. Honking.

During my training days there we would have been in the shizzle for that.

When you mention about rp's I was one there and going off your post about 11 years ago, i may well have been one of those issuing out the 'mark time' also when speaking to the current RP's it would appear that they cannot 'get away' with half the stuff we could, I must add when needed and if the recruit admitted to being a tech.

Yes I did kindly ask him to get off his phone but even then he questioned me, this was by the zebra crossing leading down to where anson and benbow were.

As for the trainees on arrival to their unit, one must question why they are failing bpfa's at 20 years old. When asked they mention that they don't do much phys in Blandford and also boast about how easy it is to go and 'doss' in their accommodation for the day.

Regards.

I probably was thrashed on the marching route by you then just for being a tech!

The PFA thing isn't a Blandford thing. Phase 1 does not have to get them under 10:30 as at Phase 2 they are still a trainee. However they must pass all MATTs on CMSR before they leave and the CO has and will get rid of dross.

As for dossing in their rooms. Couldn't comment as I don't know. That would be up to their Tp Cpls to sort but until they are made aware its hard to say if they are doing anything about it.

Can't believe he questioned you? A real liney would have knocked him out there and then!!!

Were you posted to CCU after being an RP?

Ha. Yes but gone are the days of the Liney, we are now the CLS (yeah right you won't catch me at rss doing a stacker course).

I did say that perhaps it was best he took his call out of sight of a 'orrible RP that may appear and left it at that before I was shown a yellow or red card for harrasment (jokes)

I never went to ccu no, I'm not that lucky.

Originally Posted by SgtSlaughter

I probably was thrashed on the marching route by you then just for being a tech!

The PFA thing isn't a Blandford thing. Phase 1 does not have to get them under 10:30 as at Phase 2 they are still a trainee. However they must pass all MATTs on CMSR before they leave and the CO has and will get rid of dross.

As for dossing in their rooms. Couldn't comment as I don't know. That would be up to their Tp Cpls to sort but until they are made aware its hard to say if they are doing anything about it.

Can't believe he questioned you? A real liney would have knocked him out there and then!!!

Were you posted to CCU after being an RP?

Well when we left Catterick we used to do trained soldier week which has all your ATDs at the time. Strange how we always go back to things that used to work.


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