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I may be taking the piss but with all these post, going what about redundancy payment for the TA. the part time RIR got something. all this is wishful thinking i know they will get nothing and probably not even a thankyou for you service.
A sad day for the RSigs TA good luck lads for the future and take care.

Originally Posted by youngie618

I may be taking the urine but with all these post, going what about redundancy payment for the TA.

The TA get next to nothing, but they are able to keep the same rank for two years - if they can find a new unit. Not sure what happens to the NRPS.

Originally Posted by youngie618

I may be taking the urine but with all these post, going what about redundancy payment for the TA. the part time RIR got something. all this is wishful thinking i know they will get nothing and probably not even a thankyou for you service.
A sad day for the RSigs TA good luck lads for the future and take care.

From my experience the terms of service for the part time RIR were totally different from the TA so I do not think you will get any redundancy pay off.

It would be nice for someone to let all the affected personnel know WTF is going on. This affects a hell of a lot of people, NRPS, Civvy and TA alike. We are all affected, and facing the boot. True Royal Signals style though, they cannot even communicate within the unit let alone around the world.

i was just joking i know we as TA get sod all and as i said not even a thankyou. the thing is the RIR deserved there pay off for all the yrs of living in the province and working here. good luck to what is left of the TA sigs. so much for the one army concept.

Originally Posted by Jumping_Hat

From the statement read out in the Commons by Bob Ainsworth, Minister of State (Armed Forces), Ministry of Defence; Coventry North East, Labour

"As mentioned in the review, certain elements of 2 (National Communications) Signal Brigade are identified as no longer having a clear operational role. That is partly because they hold capabilities that are no longer current, and partly because their tasks can be achieved elsewhere in defence, not least because of improvements in wider national resilience.

In addition, some TA signals units operate communications equipment that is now obsolete, and those posts will be removed. They include Headquarters 12 Signals Group and 33, 34 and 35 Signals Regiments—it is logical to reallocate those resources to higher defence priorities. That decision has not been taken lightly and we are very aware of the exceptional contribution made by the Royal Signals within the TA. However, we must focus resources where we need them most. Where possible, those affected by the decision will be offered other opportunities in the TA, and we will conduct further work to determine the most effective configuration for the TA Royal Signals. As I said, those decisions were taken separately from the reserves review, but they are entirely consistent with it."

Sounds to me the 'big cheeses' in the Corps have had this on thier mind for a while....... the cull is from within, not from MoD.

Undoubtedly the TA provide valuable support, and do so on many different levels, but the role of some of our TA regiments hark back to the cold war and allied with, quite frankly, archaic equipment are of limited value (our unit is on the verge of binning our last vestiges of Ptarmigan.... thank ferk).

The people that man them however are far more valuable, alot of the TA Sigs I've worked with bring solid comms background skills with them and after investing time and effort in training them as soldiers, it would be a sin to just cast them aside..... I hope they find a place for them.

Get the feeling that our masters have put this off for so long that instead of gradually re-rolling/rejigging the units mentioned for disbandment to a more useful role (independant BOWMAN Regts/Sqns perhaps would have been a good one) it's come down to stark and unpleasant decisions..... this should have been dealt with years ago, not left to the current comd chain who, I have no doubt, find this as unpleasant as the rest of us.

I wonder with the current climate that we find ourselves in that certain TA units couldn't have been integrated as a part of regular units - a bolt on Sqn. Independant as a unit for training etc, keeping thier own Regimental 'foibles' and the like, but available to supplement the Regt/Unit in times of deployment or need (exercises and the like). Personally I like the idea of having a 'pet' TA Sqn..... :D (Shades of 63 Sigs methinks!)

Given the emotional attachment for some for these units, it's something thats needed addressing for some time...... Don't forget us regs got humped regimentally too not so long back !

Sorry for filling up more space with the big quote but hey its a freebie!!

My TA (43 [V] Sig Sqn in Bath) unit is exactly what is described a TA Sqn as part of a reg Regt. (21) !!
It works well we get support especially on training, They get individual replacements. We normally have about 2-3 people on Op tours at any one time not many?? we are only 60 odd strong!! We were the first to get bowman. Now theres something that will kill TA R Sigs. Teks need a 5 week course to do first lines (so Im told[ but it was by a yosser]) and with new editions comming in we are getting further and further away from the reg.
New Op training (using REG courses ish) will help but cannot the higherarchy see that you cannot expect people to train for loads of days each year!! The TA is a Hobbie [be honest it may be your first love but it doesnt pay the majority of your bills!!]
So with a recruiters hat on anyone want to make the journey??

Further to all that - as posted on another thread - Remember this 'When the higherarchy make a decision the repercussions are on someone elses tour not there problem'!!

thanks

Im trying desperately to see the relevance between what happened to the Signals recently and your own problems.