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Discuss CVF and Carrier Strike thread in Royal Navy on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by Squip Im sure Hermes was fitted for Phantoms? Do you think shurley that Hermes was "fitted" for the phantom FG.1 V/STOL version or the Phantom FG.1 non- V/STOL version?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squip View Post
    Im sure Hermes was fitted for Phantoms?


    Do you think shurley that Hermes was "fitted" for the phantom FG.1 V/STOL version or the Phantom FG.1 non-V/STOL version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecity View Post


    Do you think shurley that Hermes was "fitted" for the phantom FG.1 V/STOL version or the Phantom FG.1 non-V/STOL version?
    Forget the errant V i typed. I thought the Hermes has the same system as Ark Royal?

    Meaning this system:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgLhK7ZT3zc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squip View Post
    Shouldnt you have started all of that with 'In my opinion', because thats all it is.

    CTOL? Im talking about V/STOL still being in service till 1989, infact i was mistaken, the V/STOL FG 1's were actually sent to the RAF in 1978, so what happened in 1982 it seems, was that the navy decided to leave an RAF asset behind that as you said, could have saved lives.

    So there is nothing written in the history of the Falklands war where the RAF said 'Dont worry lads, we'll do all the flying' is there?

    And no, F-35 is a stealth aircraft for bombing as a primary role in the eyes of the US, F-22 was designed as the State of the art fighter.


    V/STOL FG1's? What in the ever loving name of God are you on about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squip View Post
    Sorry, not Vertical, just STOL. Again my mistake, im used to using that acronym with a V.


    Get the fuck outta here! I loved the old Phantom, but STOL it most fucking defiantly wasn'! Try VFLTOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnoficarus View Post
    V/STOL FG1's? What in the ever loving name of God are you on about?
    Like i said, sorry about typing it with a V, its how its been said so often. I meant short take off short landing catapult system, STOL, i believed the hermes to have as the Ark royal did used by F-4 G1's.

    Id post a pic of them back in the day but cant figure how to add pictures. They were a short take off and landing aircraft on carriers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squip View Post
    Forget the errant V i typed. I thought the Hermes has the same system as Ark Royal?
    Do you also think that Hermes and Ark Royal were the same vessel?

    I will try to be polite about this.

    You are talking complete gibberish based upon an utterly false understanding of historical facts. Historical facts that can be easily ascertained upon a 5 minute google expedition.

    Now, to base any analysis and commentary upon these blatant falsehoods just makes you look a complete prat.

    I hope you have the sense to step back from ARRSE for a few moments and do a bit of research before you come back with your words of 'wisdom' and cutting-edge commentary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squip View Post
    Like i said, sorry about typing it with a V, its how its been said so often. I meant short take off short landing catapult system, STOL, i believed the hermes to have as the Ark royal did used by F-4 G1's.




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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecity View Post
    Do you also think that Hermes and Ark Royal were the same vessel?

    I will try to be polite about this.

    You are talking complete gibberish based upon an utterly false understanding of historical facts. Historical facts that can be easily ascertained upon a 5 minute google expedition.

    Now, to base any analysis and commentary upon these blatant falsehoods just makes you look a complete prat.

    I hope you have the sense to step back from ARRSE for a few moments and do a bit of research before you come back with your words of 'wisdom' and cutting-edge commentary.
    Not the same but of a similar period. I dont have much time to research 50 year old carriers so of course id be mistaken about some things such as Hermes not getting the fit for Phantoms. Besides, other then typing V by mistake, and not knowing when the FAA gave up its FG1's (which were catapult aircraft for short take off and landing), im not far off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squip View Post
    Not the same but of a similar period. I dont have much time to research 50 year old carriers so of course id be mistaken about some things such as Hermes not getting the fit for Phantoms. Besides, other then typing V by mistake, and not knowing when the FAA gave up its FG1's (which were catapult aircraft for short take off and landing), im not far off.

    Some basic research for you, took a whole 10 seconds on youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnoficarus View Post
    Some basic research for you, took a whole 10 seconds on youtube

    I actually posted that video earlier of the Ark royal when talking about if the Hermes has the system. So yea its a STOL jet isnt it.

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