ARmy Rumour SErvice

Originally Posted by untitled

http://defensetech.org/2011/11/23/uk...iles-to-libya/


Had a butchers around, couldn't find a thread on this so here it is. Shocking, yet unsuprising really. The navy are shit, not their fault i guess but really? Someone needs to be throttled for this. We couldn't project naval power any more if we tried. The navy has been whittled down to nothing short of a depressing joke.

That slag Cristina Fernández de Kirchner must be laughing her tits off.

As there is no confirmation what is was carrying its not much of a story.

And what do you expect it to be carrying? Do you go on exercise with live Ammo? Dangerous, wasteful and highly expensive to carry this kit around if not needed.

I would suggest that, if there had been a requirement, it would have taken all of, ooh, maybe twelve hours to fly a load of Seawolf out to the Ship.


Non-story.

I disagree that this is a non story. If it is called a warship it should be able to do what it says on the tin. Would the yanks be swanning around with a couple of pointy things in the bins?

I'd be more interested to know how many harpoons were being carried. Seems the RAF have stopped using harpoon, leaving them with no means of attacking ships, and the plans to fit them to T45 have been quietly abandoned. Couldn't be that our remaining stocks are knackered and we can't afford to replace them, could it?

Never mind. Next time we're up against a third world navy and they sink a T45 with anti tank missiles fired from a WWII corvette, I'm sure "lessons will be learned".

Originally Posted by OldSnowy

And what do you expect it to be carrying? Do you go on exercise with live Ammo? Dangerous, wasteful and highly expensive to carry this kit around if not needed.

I would suggest that, if there had been a requirement, it would have taken all of, ooh, maybe twelve hours to fly a load of Seawolf out to the Ship.


Non-story.

Sorry OS - it is a story. It wasn't an exercise and in any event the carriage of Sea Wolf in its overpack in an environmentally controlled ships magazine isn't the same as hauling a MILAN around in the back of an APC. And its highly unlikely that 1 BLANKS could be diverted from Salisbury Plain to go somewhere that has suddenly become a problem. HM ships should; We spend a lot of money on HM Ships (and we should) so saving money on not giving said ships ammo for self-defence is just stupid. Ready to Fight | Royal Navy


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But without an air defence capability though.

It'll continue to be a non story until the RN lose a warship because of penny pinching.

Note to third-world nations - six old MiGs should be enough to give you a battle honour that will make you the envy of other tinpot dictators.

Always carried a full war outfit. The only difference is with conventional shells the fuzes are carried separately - the order 'Fuze the Outfit' concentrates the mind. You never know where you are suddenly going to be sent to next, and the only notice you get is the time it takes to get there ('Proceed with all despatch to ..'). That's the fun of being a go-anywhere, do-anything Navy.