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Originally Posted by wet_blobby

Dont talk shit, if you're bimbling around a good couple of K's from the guardroom, a good half an hour away from a resupply what's the difference between that and a warship that needs a resupply if the shit hits the fan. You're both fucked.

The guard Rover could be there in a couple of minutes at most. Although I don't remember anywhere in ten years where the guard didn't have loaded rifles since the threat level's been raised since September 11th 2001. And the chances of being taken off stag and dropped into Helmand are roughly zero, whereas RN ships don't really have the luxury of being certain they won't get the floaty equivalent.

Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

The guard Rover could be there in a couple of minutes at most. Although I don't remember anywhere in ten years where the guard didn't have loaded rifles since the threat level's been raised since September 11th 2001. And the chances of being taken off stag and dropped into Helmand are roughly zero, whereas RN ships don't really have the luxury of being certain they won't get the floaty equivalent.

The threat level hasn't been raised to or from anything special since the mid 80's. Yes there;s been a few blips along the way when certain things have happened to raise it but dont think you're unique because you're not at bikini alpha.

When you say loaded rifles do you mean all magazines fully loaded, 200 link and a few bangy bombs just incase? Dont want to see perce stepping out into the big blue yonder without a full war load?

Originally Posted by guns

That said I am not sure what else can be said on this subject but am happy to let it run. I ask that everyone be fully aware that opinions here are not official and that this is the internet - everyone in the world can read your posts (they live for ever as well).

Yours

Guns

If you are unhappy with my statement please PM me.

Happy New Year me old fruit - nuff from this call sign on this topic, I thought I'd been clear enough, you still on holiday with CENTRIXS?

Ok VG, I'll get ELLAMY added into my mobiles dictionary, sausage fingers don't help, lol

Originally Posted by wet_blobby

The threat level hasn't been raised to or from anything special since the mid 80's. Yes there;s been a few blips along the way when certain things have happened to raise it but dont think you're unique because you're not at bikini alpha.

I thought Black Special was new (then anyway)? I don't believe I said I was unique though as I don't stag on at every MOD site (or indeed any of them) I wouldn't be, would I?

Originally Posted by wet_blobby

When you say loaded rifles do you mean all magazines fully loaded, 200 link and a few bangy bombs just incase? Dont want to see perce stepping out into the big blue yonder without a full war load?

Why would we need a 'full war load' when we're stagging on the front gate and not in Helmand? As has already been said, there's a slight difference between being on the camp where all your weapons and ammunition are kept and with virtually no chance of actually being shot at and floating round the Med several hundred miles away from the nearest source of bombs and bullets with the chance that you could be sent somewhere else if the situation changes.

As I suspect you know really.

Stagging on is hardly the same; the defences are to protect the site, not every individual.

A closer comparison would be a camp with only five rounds, rather than a sentry, and I doubt that is the case anywhere. Give it time, though.

Like so many of the posts in the various Falklands threads this just reeks of complacency "Oh it'll never happen... and even if it does our allies will save us...etc, etc." What makes it worse is that the worst complacency comes from Navy types themselves, I could understand if it was Crabs saying "It's OK we'll always be there to protect you," but sailors?

Sweet Jesus, will this never end? There was no complacency, there was a defined situation, a known threat, a range of options considered and a course of action delivered, consistent with what was needed for the task and safety of the platform/crew.

Please let this cease, so much unnecessary, unhelpful, unwarranted speculation.....

Final point - this isn't the Falklands, so much has moved on and it was very definately a different scenario.

Originally Posted by Bladensburg

Like so many of the posts in the various Falklands threads this just reeks of complacency "Oh it'll never happen... and even if it does our allies will save us...etc, etc." What makes it worse is that the worst complacency comes from Navy types themselves, I could understand if it was Crabs saying "It's OK we'll always be there to protect you," but sailors?

So give the Navy some of The Army budget so it isn't so.

Complacency isn't sought, it comes in a few disguises. Money is one of them, both ends of the scale.