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Discuss 40% Tax on your pension. in RLC on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by Conductor Dingger I will treat your opening comment with the contempt it deseves. Nothing like being personal and abusive in your opening comment. However your correct with you figures. The point I'm ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conductor View Post
    Dingger I will treat your opening comment with the contempt it deseves. Nothing like being personal and abusive in your opening comment. However your correct with you figures.

    The point I'm tying to make is, with no change to my income over the last 12 months I now have to pay 40% on part of my income which is a net loss. Savings accounts are not worth alight. Inflation is reducing the value of what you do have. it seam like we are in melt down.

    When I was demobed, like now there was very high unemployment in the North West, and the people next door had been unemployed for 25 years. They all the benefits, interest on the mortgage was being paid along with every thing else. my commuted pension stopped all benefits except £12.40 job seekers a fortnight (15 years ago).

    My only point is that the pension can stab you in the back. its only any good to you if your working other wise you could regret having it.
    How vile it musst be to have that pension stab you in the back, truly wicked. The rest of us will be working longer, paying more and getting less, trot along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gassing_Badgers View Post
    Well, as the saying goes, if you're looking for sympathy - it's in the dictionary between shit and syphilis...


    Anyone in the public sector (including the Forces) has endured the past two years with no inflationary payrise, and can look forward to a desultory 1.5% for the forseeable future.

    Therefore anyone whose pension puts them into the 40% band, and continues to recieve an uplift each year based on CPI, is unlikley to find much in the way of of a shoulder to cry on in here...


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    Conductor, you are whining because you earn enough to have to pay 40% tax.

    Do you seriously expect any sympathy?

    The pension you receive will be paid to you for the rest of your life. NOt a bad deal. its backed by HMG and you'll get it with no further effort from you at all.

    I'm pretty certain you don't pay 40% tax on it, but you might pay 40% tax on *part* of your overall income. You do NOT pay National Insurance Contributions on your pension. Its likely that next year you'll have a personal allowance of £10k.

    If you are getting paid an income from employment and the 40% tax rate is such a God-awful burden for you to bear, make a personal pension contribution which will give you tax relief at your marginal rate of 40%.

    Alternatively, give some £ to BLESMA, H4H or the ABF and get that nasty 40% burden relieved as above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eodmatt View Post
    Derisory?
    Desultory, derisory, disappointing, dogshit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod248 View Post
    How vile it musst be to have that pension stab you in the back, truly wicked. The rest of us will be working longer, paying more and getting less, trot along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conductor View Post
    In the last budget, much was made of your basic personal allowance being raised to £8k but little was made of 20-40% threshold being lowered by £3k. Now I pay Tax at 40% on my pension.

    For those of you who are still serving, be warned, that golden challis called the pension is only any good to you if you are in employment. If your out of work it will bar you from all benefits that may be available.
    Oh bollocks. Living on your pension doesn't put you in the 40% tax bracket unless you have other earnings. Give us a break and stop weeping about fuck all.
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    Unfortunatley from this computer I cannot give Dingerrs posts the Likes they deserve.
    One thing that I noticed in this area (BFG) a long time ago is that the only people who moan about the lack of money or high taxation are those who have little if anything to moan about. Those who do not earn much don't moan. As has been mentioned, sympathy is in the dictionary somewhere between--------

    PS There must be lots of people who would love to struggle on a Conductors pension. Life is hell.
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    OK a quick question regarding the new tax allowance going up to just over 9K...am i right in thinking if my annual pension is going to be just over 10K am I best in telling the tax man that my pension is my main income then any job i get as my second income.......or my pension is my second income??? Does it make any difference...Ive heard conflicting views on this.
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    I suspect the OP has even less to whinge about if he went on to be selected for a LE Commission and managed to end up as a Maj/Lt Col. If that is the case and he retired recently, his pension may be close to attracting the top whack of tax and therefore he really does need to show a little humility and back off. Mate, the only things certain in this life are the Taxman and the Grim Reaper*!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_IRON View Post
    OK a quick question regarding the new tax allowance going up to just over 9K...am i right in thinking if my annual pension is going to be just over 10K am I best in telling the tax man that my pension is my main income then any job i get as my second income.......or my pension is my second income??? Does it make any difference...Ive heard conflicting views on this.
    Can't see as it makes any difference. The important thing is that the taxman knows you have 2 sources of income, so that the tax allowance gets applied to one or the other. The danger can be that you don't get the allowance on either.
    It was like that when I got here.

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