RIP TA

**clownbasher** · 21-10-2009, 09:08

Originally Posted by Geordie_Blerk

Originally Posted by clownbasher

Originally Posted by The_Duke

Why? If you need to know, you will be told through official channels. If you do not have official channels to be told through, there is no reason on earth for you to know the training issues surrounding UKSF (R).

Depressing that you can write like that with a straight face.

The Duke has a valid point.

Why on earth does a 100% civilian such as Werewolf wish to know such matters. The bloke is a military fantasist who posesses incredibly small genitalia.

I'm sure, and agree with the sentiment. But what I also meant is that it is strangely sort of council-speak and would have rightly been red penned to f*** by my former OC. However I also see it was a more delicate way of saying "What f***ing business is it of yours?"

Pedant signing out.

**The_Duke** · 21-10-2009, 09:10

Originally Posted by clownbasher

Originally Posted by Geordie_Blerk

Originally Posted by clownbasher

Originally Posted by The_Duke

Why? If you need to know, you will be told through official channels. If you do not have official channels to be told through, there is no reason on earth for you to know the training issues surrounding UKSF (R).

Depressing that you can write like that with a straight face.

The Duke has a valid point.

Why on earth does a 100% civilian such as Werewolf wish to know such matters. The bloke is a military fantasist who posesses incredibly small genitalia.

I'm sure, and agree with the sentiment. But what I also meant is that it is strangely sort of council-speak and would have been rightly red penned to f*** by my former OC.

Pedant signing out.

I do my own red penning, and I thought it was fine.

Seriously, it was a quick response before sacking it last night. I could have come over all "Barry the Baptist" but chose not to.

Has everyone now finished critiqueing the style of my post? Good - let's move along then.

**Werewolf** · 21-10-2009, 09:14

At times like this, I'm glad to be a sociopath and, therefore, incapable of caring about other peoples opinion of me.

Otherwise, you big nasty chaps might have hurt my "feelings" - that is the word you humans use, yes?

**Gaz3447** · 21-10-2009, 09:37

Originally Posted by spad

maybe all thoes who have signed the petitions will do a tour in the next year or so,..... didn't think so,

edited for monday mishaps

I think so

**tiffer** · 21-10-2009, 14:51

Originally Posted by looktowindward

Originally Posted by 17THSEPTEMBER1944

Does this mean that our PSI's who rake in approx £3000 per month plus expenses will sit in our drill hall with the central heating at full blast keeping it warm for us til summer 2010.

£3k? Got a WO2 or WO1 as a PSI then, have you?

Yes and a S/Sgt and Cpl, also 2x NRPS S/Sgts
they all been told they doing all the recruiting (scary) and the maintenance of the equipment Vehicle servicing cooksets etc.

**tiffer** · 21-10-2009, 15:41

Originally Posted by Mac_the_knife

You know what drags the TA down is the dros PSIs we get sent from the regulars. Better to get Mrs Miggins from the tea shop involved in course booking and ex org. Admit they do send good ones as well just wish they'd keep their dros away. If they don't want to be with us for gods sake don't send them

Agree totally, last few SNCO/WO PSI we have had have seen TA as an inconvenience to their Golfing sessions in the afternoon, these guys now going to be involved in recruiting for the Sqn

although the current guys are fairly decent blokes they still keep themselves seperate from the TA (Dont attend functions etc) Few years back we had a run of really good PSIs tho who would get whatever courses were needed/wanted and even get guys on 'gucci' courses. now your lucky to get anything.

**devilish** · 21-10-2009, 15:43

Originally Posted by tiffer

Originally Posted by Mac_the_knife

You know what drags the TA down is the dros PSIs we get sent from the regulars. Better to get Mrs Miggins from the tea shop involved in course booking and ex org. Admit they do send good ones as well just wish they'd keep their dros away. If they don't want to be with us for gods sake don't send them

Agree totally, last few SNCO/WO PSI we have had have seen TA as an inconvenience to their Golfing sessions in the afternoon, these guys now going to be involved in recruiting for the Sqn

although the current guys are fairly decent blokes they still keep themselves seperate from the TA (Dont attend functions etc) Few years back we had a run of really good PSIs tho who would get whatever courses were needed/wanted and even get guys on 'gucci' courses. now your lucky to get anything.

For the next 6 months that should read nothing.....

**nochmal_bitte** · 22-10-2009, 00:53

This may have already been stated in this thread (47 pages!), in which case feel free to delete, but recruit training will continue and will be paid. The pay stops thereafter.

**MrTracey** · 22-10-2009, 06:15

Originally Posted by nochmal_bitte

This may have already been stated in this thread (47 pages!), in which case feel free to delete, but recruit training will continue and will be paid. The pay stops thereafter.

Funny old thing, you're right! it has ben said!

Trouble is, it isn't being applied consistently across of the board, and in any case, once recruited, there is no other training - not even on drill nights for the trainees - thus they will leave anyway.

Smoke and mirrors matey, smoke and mirrors.

**bluehoon** · 22-10-2009, 07:06

well i'll get the lights then, do they really think they will save that much money by stopping mma for c1 nights and training. me thinks they want to do awat with the TA "a hidden agenda?"

**rogerinfrance** · 22-10-2009, 07:16

They, the typical labour government have always done down the military, yet they always want them to do their bidding.
If there is no TA training, how do they aforesaid labour government, expect a turn to readiness, and I suspect many TA wallahs will say a big no to staying in the TA.
I spent 11 years in the TA and whilst yes it was fun there was a serious side to it and if you look at all conflicts since the TA was implemented they, like it or not, filled the gaps, and admirably as well.
Also many ex regulars find it a way to become civilians again especially in time of conflict.
I guess that next FLT's will be expected to make and find their own weapons, like catapaults and french arrows. Of course there will be no training!!
Come on GB stop extracting the oui oui.

**just_plain_dave** · 22-10-2009, 07:28

I've never classed myself as the brightest knife in the box but I had a little thought. When a civvy company hits the run out of money wall they all take pay cuts to 'save the company' has anyone thought about taking 1 days pay from the regs?? That would pay for a lot more than cutting the TA to nothing for 6 months!!
All those generals and Field Marshals 1 days pay from the upper echeolons (is that right?) would probobly fund a TA unit or 2 for 6 months!

**Kitmarlowe** · 22-10-2009, 08:34

Originally Posted by nochmal_bitte

This may have already been stated in this thread (47 pages!), in which case feel free to delete, but recruit training will continue and will be paid. The pay stops thereafter.

But WHO does the training? If recruits are getting paid for training are the TA instructors? Or the bod who drives them to the RTC on Friday night and back on Sunday?

If those TA bods aren't getting paid, how many of them do they think will bother to turn in given a choice between paid overtime from work or a weekend at home with the indoor GOC..?
If they expect the SPSI/PSI's to take over, then they may have a bit of a shock.

**polar69** · 22-10-2009, 08:36

Question is, why recruit ?

**Boxy** · 22-10-2009, 08:39

As SUT training is still paid then I can only assume, I know I shouldn't, that those who support it will be paid as well, failing that PSIs as they are regs paid 24/7 and can be ordered to?