ARmy Rumour SErvice

Originally Posted by Charlie_Cong

Okay, Taffcav - your battalion of the Royal Tank Brigade can have different collar dogs and a funny coloured feather in its hat.

As a billy-bonus, it will also have its own Guidon, emblazoned with the legends, "We had people killed recently", "We were the first regiment of the line for 55 years after the Royal Dragoons joined the Household Cavalry" and "We went to Lebanon" and a scratch 'n' sniff patch which gives off the mixed odour of a rugby player's armpit and fresh leeks.

Happy now?

You , whoever you are, are a retard sir.....

To all and Sundry, I now leave Arse as it is just that; Arse! When anyone here offers a reasonable polite argument backed up with fact; it is usually replied to with idiotic childish statements like those written by Charlie_Cong.
I wish you well, and you are all invited to the QDG survival party, bring your own meths! Bye x
PS I can be found on facebook if you want to continue but i can choose the morons i want to converse with there thank God!!

Originally Posted by Taffcav

When anyone here offers a reasonable polite argument backed up with fact; it is usually replied to with idiotic childish statements like those written by Charlie_Cong.

Hmm... which brings to mind your previous post:

Originally Posted by Taffcav

What is the matter with everyone? its like watching Jews march to the gas chamber... Kick up a fuss for God's sake!!

See ya!

Originally Posted by Taffcav

To all and Sundry, I now leave Arse as it is just that; Arse! When anyone here offers a reasonable polite argument backed up with fact; it is usually replied to with idiotic childish statements like those written by Charlie_Cong.
I wish you well, and you are all invited to the QDG survival party, bring your own meths! Bye x
PS I can be found on facebook if you want to continue but i can choose the morons i want to converse with there thank God!!

Off yer go, then and good luck. Maybe when/if you (and your Regt) can come up with some sensible and reasoned argument yourselves, you might get some in return.

Originally Posted by Taffcav

Well, you cannot mitigate for misguided, over emotional and logically incontinent fools can you Andy? As for your assertion that we defend our recruiting area and regional/national identity within the British Army by using the line "wherever you decide to recruit from today" just show utter stupidity and a crass ignorance of the facts. I dont know why im writing this actually because such comments deserve a blunt FO, but just in case your addled memory is failing you; I do remember a certain RTR regiment with the number 3 who revelled in their West Country roots and were a thoroughly good bunch of blokes who we crossed swords with on a number of occasions in the RAC Cup Rugby. I would have thought that you do them and yourself a serious disservice using such cheap shot language. I happen to think that our campaign has succeeded on a number of levels and the WELSH regiment that is QDG; and has been since formation, will continue to thrive and succeed whereas sitting there waiting for the shot in the back of the head; the option others seem to have adopted will lead to inexorably to destruction and the history books. I am off now as Arse drives me mad. I just wanted to put what i thought to be a measured, reasonable argument outlining why we adopted such a strategy and underlining the fact that until the goalposts moved we would have been content to amalgamate. But i was wrong, all ive done is invite invective just like i thought would happen.
I wish you well, but no more texts eh! You might get a visit x

Yeah my beloved '3rd of Track' which if you remember were assigned to the history books on the last tranche, however the spirit of them lives on in the new 2nd! It will be a shame if that spirit is diluted even further and it will be a travesty if the QDG or the ScotsDG and 9/12th are left alone again. Anyway all the best ------ and I hope all the bleating comes to fruition...........not!

Rather than looking at yourself in the mirror and praising your defence of your Regiment at all costs.

Why not look in to the mirror and think, we helped the RAC become what it is today...

Taffcav, while I understand the thrust of your argument and have sympathy for your cause, we (the RAC) are now at a stage beyond which we can afford inter regimental fighting.

As some of the detail of the Army 2020 structure emerges (see the multi role brigades thread in the staff officers forum), it is clear that the RAC collectively will be receiving a body blow that may leave it anywhere up to 40% smaller than it is today (i.e. potentially as small as 6 or 7 regiments in total from the current 11). With this sort of reduction being considered and the subsequent proportion of the army that the RAC as a whole will then make up, we cannot afford not to speak with a single voice. Be very clear, there are going to be cuts, by 2016 the RAC will look very different to how it looks today. It is critical now that we (the RAC community) act collectively and decisively to provide an RAC structure which is enduring, provides maximum capability and flexibility for money and which best supports our soldiers. Our effort should be directed towards saving what remains of the RAC in optimum form rather than fighting for individual regiments. If we (the RAC regiments) stand now together and speak with one voice, we will survive; if we try to fight for individual regimental survival pitting regiment against regiment, we will be picked off regiment by regiment and in doing so fail the next generation of soldiers.

Ironically for a cavalryman, I suggest that we (the RAC) 'form square' so to speak and await the upcoming announcements preparing to defend what we can collectively. Unfortunately, I suspect that the initial announcements will not talk about individual regiments and may not even absolutely define the exact size and shape of the RAC.

The threat/opportunity (I would suggest) comes in the realm of ISTAR, I suggest that we should focus our effort on ensuring that the RAC (FR type) are accepted as being the army's ISTAR lead and thus that existing RAC ISTAR capabilities are retained by the RAC and we should work to ensure that we exploit any opportunities to expand imto both existing and emerging ISTAR capabilities. It is thus sort of approach that will keep the RAC a viable organisation in the future, not protectionism at an individual regimental level.

So, stand together or die singularly, your choice. A RIFLES esque culture or fight it out between yourselves like SCOTS?

Can I recommend the following as teh Corps march for the newly minted RAC (the RRC ca have a different one).