ARmy Rumour SErvice

Originally Posted by GunneryFunnery

Damn this is right up my ally but i'm too drunk to see my keyboard. Firstly, I worked with the danish in the sandy place and they are happy with there ammo mix (canister and other stuff my viking friend tried to explain but failed) and they do get to use it a lot. This tech could be easily adopted for us on CR2 by modifying a HESH round with a few bits of wizardry (remembering where the fuse is) and a bit of British old school no nonsense mechanics. Now, this looks like it makes sense but in the morning in might look like a dyslexic rat ran across my keyboard and may require a face plant followed by a fist chew.

Thats not adoption, that's a brand new type of round I would suggest. Firstly the ammo in the article is one piece, secondly its for a smoothbore, we have neither. Im afraid that this one predicament that cant be solved by some black nasty and an AJ (8 or 12 inch). I suggest that you have a good long look at your post in the morning. Face plant and fist chew well and truly required.

Typing one handed as i am currently fist chewing.

My thinking was, instead of a completely new round we could modify existing rounds with some sort of timing device plugged on the base of a standard HESH, there is plenty of space behind it after all. O wait my mistake, we have no money and everyone we used to employ who could do that sort of thing is now working for Asda.

Cheaper to manufacture a new round.

Virtually any modification of existing ammo natures would require requalification, which is ridiculously expensive.

Originally Posted by One_of_the_strange

The TA get a mention as the regular element of the Army is shrinking by 20%; stuff either gets moved to the Reserves or it gets binned. So far the Army has played the "Regular or nothing" card and got nothing - there are encouraging signs that the penny has dropped and the Army might actually realise that something in the Reserves is better than nothing. I hope they do, given the way the economy and the government are going I would be surprised if the cuts stop at 20%.

Spending money on trying to get reservists to do CAM effectively is folly. Either you commit to a full time and effective CAM capability or remove it and accept you can't conduct war fighting operations. There is simply no point in wasting money trying to get part time forces (who are unable to spend sufficient time training) up to the required standard and in this case "something" may not be better than "nothing". CAM really is "regular or nothing".

you could get ta to do CAM but you would have to change the ta and employment laws. Because lets face it how much does a soldier do of CAM over a year. 6 weeks max

Originally Posted by diggerdaddy

you could get ta to do CAM but you would have to change the ta and employment laws. Because lets face it how much does a soldier do of CAM over a year. 6 weeks max

No that's the point, you would have to change the TA so much in order to make it effective in CAM that they would become full time soldiers (i.e. regulars). Units whose soldiers main employment is not the army cannot spend enough time training to be effective in CAM.

The decision is regular or nothing for the most part and this is the decision that needs to be made. I just hope that it is an informed one, because there is no turning back.

Be nice if they cost DM11 each eh? Still anyone for digging out Wombat and asking Herman to knock us a few loads up?