Originally Posted by incendiarycutlery

I like the Google Earth version better, but it still isn't high enough resolution to see anything interesting.

The Disco is crap too.

Originally Posted by netleyned

The German Weasel really does open the field up abit, I'm sure the Tefal Heads at some dark and mysterious establishment surrounded by a double perimeter fence can match and improve? That said is the Scimitar really THAT bad at task? The chassis seems, like the 400 series, to be evergreen, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Just to remidn you: The Weasle (or Wiesel) was never intended as recce vehicle. Its a weapon platform for direct fire support( 20mm BK version) or as anti tank asset( TOW-version). Used purely in the heavy companies of Infantry BNs(Jäger, Fallschirmjäger, Gebirgsjäger).
You cannot go on extended patrol with that thingy...(no place for all the gear/food/water/fuel that you'd need) ==> Wiesel as recce(for "todays missions")==> epic fail

*Note: I disslike paratroopers so i might be biased

The Weisel is a bit of a modern-day universal carrier.

Got this link from Tanknet; CVR(T) Scimitar 2 - Bovington, QDG Instructor Course - YouTube.

Originally Posted by ObnoxiousJockGit

Got this link from Tanknet; CVR(T) Scimitar 2 - Bovington, QDG Instructor Course - YouTube.

Slightly off thread, but one of the links at the end of that vid has the Irish Defence Forces on the ranges in Scorpions. Wasn't one of the reasons they were withdrawn in the UK was the fumes from the gun? Didn't anyone tell them?

I thought they were withdrawn because under the arms limitation treaties they were tanks not armoured cars or recce vehicles because of the 76mm?

How many Tankies or Cav have died or become ill due to these fumes?? Because i dont know of one. Yet it keeps getting dragged up as a reason Scorpion went, i personally think its more likely to dentist bills than fumes (which smelt nicer than compo farts)

Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

I thought they were withdrawn because under the arms limitation treaties they were tanks not armoured cars or recce vehicles because of the 76mm?

My understanding as well.

Originally Posted by ObnoxiousJockGit

Got this link from Tanknet; CVR(T) Scimitar 2 - Bovington, QDG Instructor Course - YouTube.

Here's a little story that I think illustrates the parlous state of part of our defence industry;

Recently, apparently there was a problem with Bastard son of Scimitar in that the turret kept going walkabout while driving. Not the best sort of fault to have even when not playing soldiers.

You will doubtless recall that the traverse gearbox is fitted with a dryplate clutch to minimise those awkward barrel tree/telegraph pole interface moments.

The fault was that the clutch plates were being "lightly oiled" prior to assembly as it had been "some time" since they had rebuilt one.

Fills your heart with pride, dunnit.

I shudder to think what monumental fuck-ups are in the pipeline should CR2 ever be reissued in the future. Navy will of course have much the same reinventing-the-wheel problem when they try flight operations(1)(2)

(1)Assuming they actually get a carrier
(2) -------------"----------- any fighters.

I am constantly amazed that the British arms industry that gave the world the 105mm L7 and the Centurion tank and the Lee Enfield rifle now just struggles to push out large steaming amounts of very expensive shit.