- 03-05-2012, 19:52 #11
Get a wood stove and one of these..... Eko-Mania Paper Log Maker - Green: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
You can process dirt- cheap energy from unwanted Jeffrey Archer "novels" from charity shops......
- 03-05-2012, 20:26 #12Senior Member
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Just been quoted £8k for a 4kW set up and it will pay for itself in 7 years. The panels are guaranteed to be 80% after 25 years. It does warn that the inverter may need changing at some point in the 25 years. They cost somewhere in the region of £600.
Edited to add
A year ago they were charging £12k to fit them. The price drop is down to the drop in subsidy. From a personal point of view, I'm going ahead with it anyway. Power is not going to get any cheaper. The more it goes up, the more I will save.Last edited by Gobbly wobbly; 03-05-2012 at 20:49.
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- 03-05-2012, 20:31 #13Some days you wake and immediately start to worry. Nothing in particular is wrong, it's just the suspicion that forces are aligning quietly and there will be trouble ahead..... Formally known as Mucus, before I lost the log in....
Well two days of digging and searching in the general area and we still haven't found the cunting leak. Surely there must be technology more accurate than a grumpy old bloke in a yellow hi-vis coat, wielding a length of dowelling on a thread bobbin and claiming there may be a leak in the generic area known as "under there"?
- 03-05-2012, 20:37 #14
- 03-05-2012, 20:48 #15
Those are mostly solar thermal, sun light heating water.
The subsidies were for solar electric,photo-voltaic, PV, sun light making electrickery.
The PV inverters may go tits-up after 25 years, but the cost of the technology has been falling consistently for the past couple of decades. Inverters are fairly standard on big electric motors for fans and pumps. Twenty years ago they were real cutting edge stuff, most motors had star-delta contactor starters. I recall some Swedish sales rep trying to sell me some hydraulic speed control coupling gadget for big fans. In 20 years time inverters may be much cheaper. Or they may not
Peccavi.
- 03-05-2012, 21:17 #16
Following the boom in Double Glazing a number of years ago and IIRC householders being left with meaningless guarantees when companies folded is there an umbrella organisation to give some real credence to the long term guarantees offered ?
Of course this report concerning subsequent difficulties with the sale of a property is worth a read if ever tempted to go down the " Free " route .... RICS warns house hunters against buying homes with free solar panels fitted | This is Money
Edited to add another article worth a read ... Free & paid-for solar panels: Save on electricity bills and avoid the cowboys | This is MoneyLast edited by Border_Reiver; 03-05-2012 at 21:42.
There are those who know .... those who don't know .... but the most annoying , outspoken and dangerous are ....
those who don't know they don't know .
- 03-05-2012, 21:29 #17Senior Member

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Wait for the new Green Deal. Essentially you get a free loan to pay for energy efficiency improvements to your house. The loan is repaid through the difference in the energy bills. The loan is guaranteed by the Govt, and available to all - no credit checks. The loan stays with the house.
Its still a bit up in the air, lot of detail to be sorted, but looks like a good deal. Supposedly in place come Oct.There is no question so obviously stupid that it prevents one supposedly intelligent human from asking it of another.
Likewise, there is no human problem that cannot be solved by the correct application of the appropriate quantity of high explosive, the suitable quantity being derived by the Formula P, where P = "plenty"
Nobody ever imagined a bunch of Orcs would steal a database table...




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