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    Quick question, with the minimal BS that Arrse is known for. What's the earning potential of a brand new PMC these days? Minimum and maximum first year takings. Maritime/Land - much difference?
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    Been in the system for 5 yrs now in training and HR,Iraq.

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    Ronin UK
    Pheonix ( or whatever G4 now call it)
    Ronin SA (Interesting med training)


    All the above are the key courses looked for by companies recruiting for the Hostile Environment. If your looking for long term work providing security for oil companies in Iraq then you will need a min civvy FPos qual, look at MIRA,HEMT or similar. Some of the oil companies are now insisting one Off Shore medic per team so all you med centre warriors make the most of your resettlement.The remainder tick the box but the more obscure courses may not be on some companies prefered lists.

    Security companies who also run their own schools will almost exclusively recruit candidates attending their courses, unless of course your a Walter, Tool or have ego issues. Its not the Army nor does it pretend to be, its a commercial environment so if you like to stir it, or your idle or just a plain old whinging gob shite look elsewhere.

    This a bit of a generalisation hope it helps.

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    If you don't mind heat,sand,arabs, petulent clients, working 14 hr days seven days a week, sharing a room, having poor internet and don't mind listening to meat heads talk about their fledgling UFC careers then please join the queue waiting to deploy,if you feel that you cannot work closely in a team comprising of locals don't bother teams made up exclusively of expats are rare and poorly paid, qualifying can be expensive the wait to get a contract will be long (unless you in the airborne brotherhood, suppliers of afore mentioned meatheads) then the monies good and the work ......well that always the same.

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    If your a bitter 12yr full screw looking for someone to nurse your massive ego and listen to your barrack room lawyer bullshit then please pick Afghan or the UK circuit theres already too many of you in Iraq already.


    Opinions expressed above are the view of the author and do not representitive of any one security provider


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    Maritime is un reliable but suits those looking for stop gaps or a wee trip away, hostile envirnment is long hour seven days a week while your in, most rotations for team members : 8/4 9/3 or 6/6 (rare) wages

    Pay is varied Team Members $258 - $338

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    Personally I'd find a company thats got some good contracts and ask them what they look for in recruits.Came across this site a while ago
    [url=http://www.closeprotectionworld.com/]Close Protection World[/url]
    You may be able to find some direction there

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    Not a bad site, huge amount of speculation and rumour, information posted by the site managers tends to be correct (ish)

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    SOS are a really good company to go with. Specialist Operational Support - The SOS Group

    Forgot to add, they do FPOS in the course I think and run a whole host of other Med courses.
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    *Not from personal experience, but of friends with significant grown-up experience of oil-field contracts*- as a medic within the team you may be responsible for the industrial health&safety element of the workers you are protecting. As they depart to the site you may be ensuring they have all their PPE, are signed-out of their accommodation, have a LEC guard assigned to them etc.

    Having a recognised H&S qual may help you float to the top of the less experience 'grunt' element of the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screw_The_Nut View Post
    Quick question, with the minimal BS that Arrse is known for. What's the earning potential of a brand new PMC these days? Minimum and maximum first year takings. Maritime/Land - much difference?
    £172 a day on an 8/4 rotation is the starting wage for Iraq, works out about £43K tax free. Minimum requirement is SIA and 7 years in the Military or Police.
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    Hmm alot of self accreditation and EFP's on oil fields? If your looking to work with the main five companies in Iraq you'll need a recognised FOP (+) course. Do your home work before you spend your money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUNRAY_MINOR View Post
    £172 a day on an 8/4 rotation is the starting wage for Iraq, works out about £43K tax free. Minimum requirement is SIA and 7 years in the Military or Police.
    Olive Group and Aegis are paying a lot less that that to start. Olive now pay £132 a day for an ex British Mil expat on a certain contract!

    I guess you're are talking about Garda looking at that pay grade, good company.

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