ARmy Rumour SErvice

**dinosaur_poo** · 07-08-2011, 06:54

Originally Posted by chocolate_frog

These are a MUST. Adults and Cadets have to have CCF on their uniform, either under the pips/crown or on the shoulder. Technically the SSI should too, but in practice they er, forget. But as they are all usually crusty 22+ year WOs they are probably senile! :D

Collar dogs, buttons and headdress can be adopted, and stable belts in some dresses, but that is it. Backing to capbadges is another oddity. Cadets usually don't wear them, but the adults often do. ie Gren guards CCF, cadets didn't adults did... but then again the adults wore the guards trf which is a DEFINITE NO NO.

As a rule most wear the CCF stable belt, or their own, for cadets, maybe using regtl for adults.

Out of interest, why do the adults feel a need to differentiate from what their cadets wear?

Why is it that the regimental belt is too good for the kids but fine for the adults? Surely the adults are equally members of the CCF as the kids and no more members of the regiment than the kids. Same for TRFs. Surely if one can the other can? Or do people just like to look 'the real deal' whilst doing their best to make sure the kids look more similar to the scouts than their affiliated regiment?

I've definitely seen some funny CCF uniform things going on, with 1st years joining one capbadge then becoming a different one in the second (within the same Army section). And as you say, the SSI kinda lives on their own regulations. Often too do other former serving teachers / volunteers. But in the way that CCFs work as 'independent' units generally, I would personally be of the opinion that it doesn't do half as much harm as it would do in the over-political ACF / ATC etc.

**RP578** · 08-08-2011, 15:55

Many thanks SLP & CF.

CF, I have actually checked JSP313 Chapter 6, but apart from clearly stating that both cadets and Instructors should wear CCF iedntifiers, it is actually pretty short on specifics.

Originally Posted by dinosaur_poo

And as you say, the SSI kinda lives on their own regulations. Often too do other former serving teachers / volunteers.

I guess this particular contingent is pretty good in that regard. The SSI is also a junior rank in the TA and wears his TA uniform and uses his junior rank rather than the CSjt CCF one he is entitled to. One of the Teachers is also a Capt in the TA (a rank he achieved in the Regs) which is the same regiment as his CCF contingent is affiliated to, so he wears his rank sans CCF 'subtitles' as he's entitled to.

The only potential drama is that they want heir kids to look a bit ally by wearing stable belts etc., and thereby might be inadvertantly setting the kids up to crossing a line. To be fair, both the instructors and the kids are (barring a couple of exceptions) mindful and respectful of the difference between the CCF and the Armed Forces, which was nice to witness.

**h301593** · 08-08-2011, 16:18

Surely its exactly the same as regimental dress regs, just with the addition of CCF titles and no tactical/ brigade flashes.

**King-walt** · 26-08-2011, 19:31

I've just spent the last 2 training nights at a rifles ACF det... and the cadets are wearing the back badges

**chocolate_frog** · 26-08-2011, 20:25

Originally Posted by King-walt

I've just spent the last 2 training nights at a rifles ACF det... and the cadets are wearing the back badges

Ahh. Gloster. Their County Commandant or someone wants it done so it is done. No other Rifles wear it so.

**QRK2** · 26-08-2011, 20:32

You could always ask an SSI, like this chap:

No.1 Dress for Army Cadets

**walt_of_the_walts** · 26-08-2011, 20:46

No.2 dress? Shouldn't that be SD? Remind us which walt is this again?

EDIT: Or is that FAD? Colour looks too khaki

**chocolate_frog** · 26-08-2011, 20:51

Where are the collar dogs for teh alledged Para WO1 SSI?

And why his is Sam Browne on back to front?

And where are his legs...

**QRK2** · 26-08-2011, 21:07

Originally Posted by walt_of_the_walts

No.2 dress? Shouldn't that be SD? Remind us which walt is this again?

Brighton College - CCF

You'll see the same building in the background.

**BuggerAll** · 26-08-2011, 21:11

The ex regular currently TA officer must still wear CCF titles when he is acting in his capacity as a CCF officer.

I'm a TA officer who is also an ACF officer. When I'm CFAVing I wear ACF slides.