I heard the other day that the D of E may be getting binned from the ACF training syllabus for reasons that were disconcertingly vague, and that this has already happened in some counties. Can anyone confirm, deny or elaborate on this?

It's because the star levels dont match up to the award scheme any more. It's upto your county wether they bin it or not. By the sounds of it the won't get there silver until they have completed scic. So mite aswell scrap it.

Originally Posted by Bigcsm22

It's because the star levels dont match up to the award scheme any more. It's upto your county wether they bin it or not. By the sounds of it the won't get there silver until they have completed scic. So mite aswell scrap it.

Sounds a bit poo. If it is worthwhile, then it should be continued. From a Gold Holder.

The ACF is not binning DofE at all.

As with many activities in the ACF, the degree of participation will depend on the enthusiasm and capacity of the adult volunteers in any given county, but overall we remain fully committed to DofE.

Originally Posted by Bigcsm22

It's because the star levels dont match up to the award scheme any more. It's upto your county wether they bin it or not. By the sounds of it the won't get there silver until they have completed scic. So mite aswell scrap it.

Originally Posted by HeadMarcomACF

The ACF is not binning DofE at all.

As with many activities in the ACF, the degree of participation will depend on the enthusiasm and capacity of the adult volunteers in any given county, but overall we remain fully committed to DofE.

Could you be more specific? Also, how is the enthusiasm of adult volunteers at grass roots {detachment} level able to affect something that is decided at higher level? The average AI follows a pre-determined training syllabus. The story i heard had all the hallmarks of organisational internal politics, as i said, it was very vague.

Originally Posted by HeadMarcomACF

The ACF is not binning DofE at all.

As with many activities in the ACF, the degree of participation will depend on the enthusiasm and capacity of the adult volunteers in any given county, but overall we remain fully committed to DofE.

I, for one, am delighted to hear that. It has been a long association and valuable for very many cadets.







.......Nor, had the rumour been true, can I imagine a more uncomfortable position that that individual who would have had the job of taking such news to the ACF Colonel-in-Chief!

For simply His service in creating the Scheme, and His input for over 50 years, which has been of true value to young people and society through the world, (and even if one disregarded His many other achievements), HRH Prince Philip will probably stand for ever as the most outstanding Royal Consort in our history.

Even just in the UK, 275,000 young people taking part this year!

Originally Posted by ivan_the_tolerable

Could you be more specific? Also, how is the enthusiasm of adult volunteers at grass roots {detachment} level able to affect something that is decided at higher level? The average AI follows a pre-determined training syllabus. The story i heard had all the hallmarks of organisational internal politics, as i said, it was very vague.

A similar rumour was reported some while back by a member of the armycadetforce.com forum, and on looking into it, it seems that a CFAV told a cadet, "we aren't doing D of E anymore"

This obviously caused some discussion as hundreds of our cadet members on that forum are currently at some stage through the Scheme or have passed Bronze, Silver or Gold.

What would appear to have happened to spark that original post on our forum was that there was some administrative and temporary problem with that County, which had precipitated that comment, which perhaps could have been better put in some way such as "we are not signing cadets upfor D of E just now".

As headmarcom indicated, any volunteer organisation is subject to capacity problems at times, and the initial question posted on our forum would seem to have picked up a relatively minor and temporary blip and transformed it towards something looking more sinister.

Originally Posted by tom_dkg

A similar rumour was reported some while back by a member of the armycadetforce.com forum, and on looking into it, it seems that a CFAV told a cadet, "we aren't doing D of E anymore"

This obviously caused some discussion as hundreds of our cadet members on that forum are currently at some stage through the Scheme or have passed Bronze, Silver or Gold.



What would appear to have happened to spark that original post on our forum was that there was some administrative and temporary problem with that County, which had precipitated that comment, which perhaps could have been better put in some way such as "we are not signing cadets upfor D of E just now".

As headmarcom indicated, any volunteer organisation is subject to capacity problems at times, and the initial question posted on our forum would seem to have picked up a relatively minor and temporary blip and transformed it towards something looking more sinister.

Fair enough. I shall disregard said rumour. As you say, it would be strange to drop a flagship scheme which enjoys the patronage of the Colonel-in chief.

Well its something that anyone can do anyway, so bin it from the scheme. Any keen DofEers can do it anyway.

As I said. It is upto each county whether they run it or not. Gmacf are apparantly not running with it shortly.