Originally Posted by semper

come here with a nobbers approach and you will get what you deserve

what happened to that "Guide to new members" website ?

The winning response so far! :P

I didn't know the Legion could be so much fun. Can we get a trainspotter from the Lions to come along next week with his cardboard sleigh, taped carols and Santa suit collecting for Esther Ranzens sick baby fund?

Can I join ? I've got a CSE in Metalwork, been on the crappy end of a Courts Martial and know which end of a gun thingy them bullets come out of.

PS Can sing several verses of Barnacle Bill the Sailor.

Originally Posted by RCSignals

Perhaps you should examine your approach. Simply introducing yourself and answering some of the questions asked in this thread may get you better response and acceptance

Tried to suggest this in chat but he just responded that why should he play nicely with a load of 2 year olds!

The main thing is at least he hasn't thrown a soggy teddy out of the cot.

Hmmm, judging by their own websites they seem to be a fractious bunch. Do you think G_Rs posts are evidence for or against this perception?

I bet they were a worthwhile and interesting organisation... ninety years ago. Nowadays they give the impression of being a bunch of sad old tw@ts, dressing in uniforms and playing soldiers with their air pistols. My suggestion would be that the young ones should join the TA, and the old ones should have a nice mug of Horlicks and a bit of a sit down in a comfy chair.

The reality is, anyone who wants to help the armed forces should join the armed forces (unless it's a teenage nymphomaniac supermodel who's volunteering, in which case I have a very special task which I need to brief you on).

Originally Posted by Grim-Reaper

It is not a 'gang' we are not in East LA now sunshine.

These days the Legion do work in the community

More like care in the community.........sunshine.

you picked up on the "sunshine" aswell then

"senior speak" at it's patronising best.

Originally Posted by Trotsky

This link refers to The Royal Galloglas, a similar organsiation run by Baron Castleshort......

http://home.earthlink.net/~rggsibiba...galloglas.html


Baron Castleshort as well as commanding the Legions C Squadron is also the DG of the International Bodyguard association.

www.ibabodyguards.com

Does anybody know anything about these organisations.

Trotsky

I have held my council with regard to this particular topic, mainly because I harboured a certain suspicion about the authenticty of the whole thing. I should say that I am not questioning the existence of the Legion of Frontiersmen, although I must confess to not having heard of it before. However, the posting which listed the members - past and present - of this organisation set alarms bells ringing. Someone has already pointed out that 'Prince Michael of Albany' is down as being a member. This imposter claims to be the head of the Royal House of Stewart (Stuart) on the basis of an alleged second marriage entered-into by Bonnie Prince Charlie. This marriage did not happen and the evidence he presented to back-up his claim was exposed as fake some time ago. He also claims to be descended from Jesus Christ - see the book 'Bloodline of the Holy Grail: The Hidden Lineage of Jesus Revealed' by Laurence Gardner, to which he wrote the foreword. In short, the man - one Michael Lafosse of Belgium - is a charlatan, a fraud and a liar. He recently put himself forward for election to the European Parliament in the Czech Republic, and lost. According to a Telegraph article at the time he was associating with some unsavoury types on the fringes of Czech politics.

As for 'The Royal Galloglas' and the so-called Baron Castleshort, this is connected to a scandal that broke in Ireland a couple of years ago when a charlatan from Belfast presented faked documents to the Office of the Chief Herald in Dublin which led to him receiving 'courtesy recognition' as a Gaelic Irish Chieftain - he called himself 'The MacCarthy Mór, Prince of Desmond' (Desmond is the one-time name for the region in south-west Ireland that roughly corresponds to the moder-day province of Munster). The title was and is genuine, certainly from an historical viewpoint, but this character had no legitimate claim to it. However, he managed to fool a lot of people for quite some time, perhaps not surprisingly in America. He established his own order of chivalry - in Irish the 'Niadh Nask' (Order of the Golden Collar) - and he created titles of nobility for cronies of his and gullible and historically inept types. It is estimated that he made somewhere in the region of US$1,000,000 from the sale of these utterly bogus titles and for admission to his self-styled 'order'. This is how this Baron Castleshort fellow came by his title - like many of those taken for the proverbial ride by this MacCarthy Mór imposter, this man is, I understand, an Irish-American. The Royal Galloglas is a largely Irish-American organistaion that purported to be the modern-day reincarnation of the royal bodyguard of the Princes of Desmond. I am somewhat surprised that it still exists since the breaking of the MacCarthy Mór scandal. The International Bodyguard Association would appear to be legitimate enough along with 'Baron Castleshort's' professional credentials, which leads me to wonder why he has bothered with all this grubby and ludicrous nonsense.

The fellow at the centre of the scandal is at present living in Tangiers with his male lover, who was jailed in Northern Ireland in the 1980s for extortion. There is, as far as I am aware, still an ongoing investigation into the MacCarthy Mór affair in the Irish Republic.

One of the hallmarks of organisations such as this is that they will often attempt to link themselves with well-known people in an attempt to gain an air of legitimacy and respectibility. I am therefore suspicious as to the current legitimacy of the Legion of Frontiersmen in light of their highlighting of such members as 'Prince Michael of Albany'. I should add that Belgium is something of a centre for false orders of chivalry and aristocratic pretenders. I have a feeling that the Legion of Frontiersmen is a once harmeless, and essentially decent organistaion that may well have been hijacked by wannabes, social climbers and chancers.

gallowglass


What you state about the Irish-American group and claims is not surprising.
There is much confusion in the US of these things, and a confusion of what is Scottish as opposed to Irish.
Most of the occurrence of "Irish tartans" are recent developments/designs of Irish Americans, and many are claimed to be "Ancient" (not referring to the colours of the cloth)

Scottish weaving mills and kilt makers have not done much to dissuade these things either, not wanting to turn away customers.