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    My younger brother is doing his LLM on firearms legislation in the UK and I was reading his paper when I saw this reference from an article he'd quoted.

    ...This kind of argument (the right to carry guns as a marker and an entitlement of full-blooded citizenship) was publicly advanced only by the Shooters' Rights Association, although there is some evidence that small numbers of other individuals, often of military background or associated with fringe organisations of the far right and far left hold them.
    The footnote giving an example of an individual from a far right fringe organisation stated that a Mr Bannistre-Parker, who claimed to be a retired army Major, was arrested at his home in Preston after threatening two burglars with a shotgun and that at his trial it was revealed he was "an active member of an organisation known as the Legion of Frontiersmen."

    Small world, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Dignity
    My younger brother is doing his LLM on firearms legislation in the UK and I was reading his paper when I saw this reference from an article he'd quoted.

    ...This kind of argument (the right to carry guns as a marker and an entitlement of full-blooded citizenship) was publicly advanced only by the Shooters' Rights Association, although there is some evidence that small numbers of other individuals, often of military background or associated with fringe organisations of the far right and far left hold them.
    The footnote giving an example of an individual from a far right fringe organisation stated that a Mr Bannistre-Parker, who claimed to be a retired army Major, was arrested at his home in Preston after threatening two burglars with a shotgun and that at his trial it was revealed he was "an active member of an organisation known as the Legion of Frontiersmen."

    Small world, isn't it?
    It is indeed. IIRC this was in October 1995 and Mr Bannistre-Parker was in his early sixties. He was a member of 'European Command' which was to become IOC.

    It's a while since I've come across the 'far right' label for the Legion of Frontiersmen. That was more of a 1970s thing.

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    Прoмышленники were our frontiersmen, men with fur hats!

    Imagine our excitement, then, when Аркадий А. Морозов, a member of the Supreme Council of *усский Имперский Союз - Орден (Russian Imperial Union-Order) in Australia affiliates with your Legion of Frontiersmen there last year! Are you right wing enough?

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    If you're very good IOC will provide the Imperial House of Russia with an Honour Guard.

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    You are too kind.

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    Re: Legion Of Frontiersmen?

    Quote Originally Posted by hyphae
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Dignity
    My younger brother is doing his LLM on firearms legislation in the UK and I was reading his paper when I saw this reference from an article he'd quoted.

    ...This kind of argument (the right to carry guns as a marker and an entitlement of full-blooded citizenship) was publicly advanced only by the Shooters' Rights Association, although there is some evidence that small numbers of other individuals, often of military background or associated with fringe organisations of the far right and far left hold them.
    The footnote giving an example of an individual from a far right fringe organisation stated that a Mr Bannistre-Parker, who claimed to be a retired army Major, was arrested at his home in Preston after threatening two burglars with a shotgun and that at his trial it was revealed he was "an active member of an organisation known as the Legion of Frontiersmen."

    Small world, isn't it?
    It is indeed. IIRC this was in October 1995 and Mr Bannistre-Parker was in his early sixties. He was a member of 'European Command' which was to become IOC.

    It's a while since I've come across the 'far right' label for the Legion of Frontiersmen. That was more of a 1970s thing.
    Hadn't really considered the whole right-wing thing. They certainly aren't left wing but I thought that there might be enough collective wisdom and forces experience to avoid any political association. On the whole they are so risibly inert that any activity is noteworthy, even the pustule-like risings of paramilitary saddle clubs in the northern wastes.

    On the subject of retired majors, I notice from the LOF Forum that one Major Jonathan S, late of the RA and one time MFH of the RA Hunt is discussed as a potential chairman/dear leader etc. of this august association. I hope this is not true - the less we have to do in any form with this organisation the better.

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    Re: Legion Of Frontiersmen?

    Quote Originally Posted by hyphae
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Dignity
    My younger brother is doing his LLM on firearms legislation in the UK and I was reading his paper when I saw this reference from an article he'd quoted.

    ...This kind of argument (the right to carry guns as a marker and an entitlement of full-blooded citizenship) was publicly advanced only by the Shooters' Rights Association, although there is some evidence that small numbers of other individuals, often of military background or associated with fringe organisations of the far right and far left hold them.
    The footnote giving an example of an individual from a far right fringe organisation stated that a Mr Bannistre-Parker, who claimed to be a retired army Major, was arrested at his home in Preston after threatening two burglars with a shotgun and that at his trial it was revealed he was "an active member of an organisation known as the Legion of Frontiersmen."

    Small world, isn't it?
    It is indeed. IIRC this was in October 1995 and Mr Bannistre-Parker was in his early sixties. He was a member of 'European Command' which was to become IOC.

    It's a while since I've come across the 'far right' label for the Legion of Frontiersmen. That was more of a 1970s thing.
    A very interesting (and correct) observation Hyphae. His claims to having been a Major and also being a member of the SBS or something similar were of course spurious. He really was a total odd-ball (probably still is) and was "discharged" from the L of F soon after the shotgun event. The L of F never had any association with the far right at any time, but some of that leaning did join or try to join. As soon as they were identified, they were shown the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyphae
    If you're very good IOC will provide the Imperial House of Russia with an Honour Guard.
    Only if they can have another medal......please......or maybe a Papal Knighthood? (Ask Baron Castleshort about these if you really, really want one)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victorian_Major
    Quote Originally Posted by hyphae
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Dignity
    My younger brother is doing his LLM on firearms legislation in the UK and I was reading his paper when I saw this reference from an article he'd quoted.

    ...This kind of argument (the right to carry guns as a marker and an entitlement of full-blooded citizenship) was publicly advanced only by the Shooters' Rights Association, although there is some evidence that small numbers of other individuals, often of military background or associated with fringe organisations of the far right and far left hold them.
    The footnote giving an example of an individual from a far right fringe organisation stated that a Mr Bannistre-Parker, who claimed to be a retired army Major, was arrested at his home in Preston after threatening two burglars with a shotgun and that at his trial it was revealed he was "an active member of an organisation known as the Legion of Frontiersmen."

    Small world, isn't it?
    It is indeed. IIRC this was in October 1995 and Mr Bannistre-Parker was in his early sixties. He was a member of 'European Command' which was to become IOC.

    It's a while since I've come across the 'far right' label for the Legion of Frontiersmen. That was more of a 1970s thing.
    Hadn't really considered the whole right-wing thing. They certainly aren't left wing but I thought that there might be enough collective wisdom and forces experience to avoid any political association.

    Affirmative. The Constitution specifically prohibits any form of political association.

    On the whole they are so risibly inert that any activity is noteworthy, even the pustule-like risings of paramilitary saddle clubs in the northern wastes.

    Who only joined in order to gain some sort of "recognition" and they even failed in that.

    On the subject of retired majors, I notice from the LOF Forum that one Major Jonathan S, late of the RA and one time MFH of the RA Hunt is discussed as a potential chairman/dear leader etc. of this august association. I hope this is not true - the less we have to do in any form with this organisation the better.

    It is correct, but we are as pleased as you are that he failed in that atempt, receiving no votes whatsoever in the election.

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    Re: Legion Of Frontiersmen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Victorian_Major
    Quote Originally Posted by hyphae
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Dignity
    My younger brother is doing his LLM on firearms legislation in the UK and I was reading his paper when I saw this reference from an article he'd quoted.

    ...This kind of argument (the right to carry guns as a marker and an entitlement of full-blooded citizenship) was publicly advanced only by the Shooters' Rights Association, although there is some evidence that small numbers of other individuals, often of military background or associated with fringe organisations of the far right and far left hold them.
    The footnote giving an example of an individual from a far right fringe organisation stated that a Mr Bannistre-Parker, who claimed to be a retired army Major, was arrested at his home in Preston after threatening two burglars with a shotgun and that at his trial it was revealed he was "an active member of an organisation known as the Legion of Frontiersmen."

    Small world, isn't it?
    It is indeed. IIRC this was in October 1995 and Mr Bannistre-Parker was in his early sixties. He was a member of 'European Command' which was to become IOC.

    It's a while since I've come across the 'far right' label for the Legion of Frontiersmen. That was more of a 1970s thing.
    Hadn't really considered the whole right-wing thing. They certainly aren't left wing but I thought that there might be enough collective wisdom and forces experience to avoid any political association. On the whole they are so risibly inert that any activity is noteworthy, even the pustule-like risings of paramilitary saddle clubs in the northern wastes.

    On the subject of retired majors, I notice from the LOF Forum that one Major Jonathan S, late of the RA and one time MFH of the RA Hunt is discussed as a potential chairman/dear leader etc. of this august association. I hope this is not true - the less we have to do in any form with this organisation the better.
    If Jonathan S. is involved then perhaps it is the association with riding boots that has attracted him? I always felt embarrassed that the royal Regiment wasn't quite "grand enough" for him!!

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    Re: Legion Of Frontiersmen?

    I visited the Legion of Frontiersmen forum today and saw that there have been changes at t'mill.

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    Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: Better Stronger Faster or Die

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    Hello Frontiersmen and Frontierswomen

    With the new CG installed for LoF CMO it looks like we are in for a shake up. Congratulations to CG Reed for taking out the election, however controversial it may have been. Also congratulations to the new Command Staff he appointed.
    Is CG Reed an old soldier and how is the new Command Staff shaping up? Maybe you know, zero-alpha-one. (I could watch your avatar for hours, but mind she doesn't get mastitis!)

    On a practical note, the forum's security is poor. The site administrator might consider using 'Moodle' which is a free and very secure CMS.

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    Re: Legion Of Frontiersmen?

    Quote Originally Posted by hyphae
    I visited the Legion of Frontiersmen forum today and saw that there have been changes at t'mill.

    adpotaka

    Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: Better Stronger Faster or Die

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    Hello Frontiersmen and Frontierswomen

    With the new CG installed for LoF CMO it looks like we are in for a shake up. Congratulations to CG Reed for taking out the election, however controversial it may have been. Also congratulations to the new Command Staff he appointed.
    Is CG Reed an old soldier and how is the new Command Staff shaping up? Maybe you know, zero-alpha-one. (I could watch your avatar for hours, but mind she doesn't get mastitis!)

    On a practical note, the forum's security is poor. The site administrator might consider using 'Moodle' which is a free and very secure CMS.

    WEBSITE
    Controversial means that particles from 210Po were found at the scene.

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    There I was thinking he'd taken the election out to a seedy nightclub and suggested something unmentionable!

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