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    Re: Please Sir! - Soldiers to retrain as teachers.

    My Deputy Headmaster was ex-Welsh Guards (NCO I believe, not the usual Guards orificer type certainly) - became defacto head of discipline and was able to mentor one or two "less emotionally suitable" teachers to be able to handle their classes effectively.

    I don't think it would take more than two ex-forces teachers per school to make a serious difference, especially now the rules have been changed to allow teachers to discipline their 'charges'.


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    Discipline discipline discipline, it would be better to take some of these little monsters around the back for a good kicking, ensuring they pass through a metal detectors to check they are not tooled up.

    Perhaps better than all these weak willed liberal sandal wearing hippies who they have in the teaching profession at the present.

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    Re: Please Sir! - Soldiers to retrain as teachers.

    This comment from the article shows one marked differance between the US army and the UK forces:

    The Troops to Teachers (T3) programme in the US retrains soldiers with a minimum of 10 years' experience, and a degree, as fully-certified teachers.
    The US Army has a quite high proportion of its 'other ranks' and seniors educated to degree level, often via the army directly. We on the other hand are happy to teach the common soldiery to count to 10. At a push.


    *remembers trying to do an OU course and having to bin it due to seniors actively denying anyone in our unit attending night school or other extra curricular education because they wanted bods on the vehicle park*
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    It was the only way we could survive. People had always dreamed of a unified world. We thought it would be a richer one. It wasn’t.
    It meant that the Eskimo got educated and learned cost accountancy, but it didn’t mean the German learned to hunt whales with a spear.
    It meant that everyone learned how to press buttons, but no one remembered how to dive for pearls.’

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    Ex-paras setting spelling tests in English lessons eh? :D
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    Baldrick: Absolutely not.
    Blackadder: Oh, come on, Baldrick, you're going to be an MP, for God's sake! I'll just put `fraud and sexual deviancy'.

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    Re: Please Sir! - Soldiers to retrain as teachers.

    I shall seek a position in a Bavarian Convent school teaching the little girls Home Economics (with apologies to Blackadder)
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    Re: Please Sir! - Soldiers to retrain as teachers.

    US accepts soldiers as role models and ideal to be teachers. A friend who has now picked up his one star was about to de-kit to be a school administrator (headmaster). Seems like a great idea, you serve your country and then instruct kids. Pension and pay all around.

    And I might add, female teachers are very... keen to get jumped.

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    Re: Please Sir! - Soldiers to retrain as teachers.

    Major Jones the maths teacher (Gunner) at my prep school was the object of fear and respect. He could be distracted to talk about the desert, but it was a risky tactic and did not always work.

    He was usually sympathetic to boys playing war games, but once he gave me detention for being a German. I think he heard me shouting:

    "Achtung Englander shwiene" and

    "ack ack ack ack ack ack ack!" with my air Schmeisser.

    May I teach English Literature to the VI Form Girls.
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    Re: Please Sir! - Soldiers to retrain as teachers.

    gosh, playing war in the play ground, is that still allowed?

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    In my opinion, the best disciplinarian at a school is the school caretaker. I base this on my experience as a former incumbent at a well known N.W school.

    "Charcters", were the guys to ping on, get one or two alone and have a quiet word or two, not making any direct threats but making the meaning clear that it was entirely possible for that particular miscreant to be going home at 15 30 hrs with his head under his arm. The results were pretty good and I had only two who decided to test the water, result, their sore kidneys and badly wounded pride but no further trouble.

    Once word got round, probs ceased and calm and tranquility reigned

    Strangely enough I was never taken to task by the Higher Echelon, nor any parents who might have been "informed".

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    Re: Please Sir! - Soldiers to retrain as teachers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Happy
    gosh, playing war in the play ground, is that still allowed?
    Probably not but it was in the early 70's, I was just more careful about being a German. I don't remember any one ever being a Jap or a w... I mean Italian or any of their other allies, odd that.
    A DEAD STATESMAN

    I could not dig: I dared not rob:
    Therefore I lied to please the mob.
    Now all my lies are proved untrue
    And I must face the men I slew.
    What tale shall serve me here among
    Mine angry and defrauded young?

    Kipling: EPITAPHS 1914

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