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Originally Posted by DavidBOC

As a septic observer It is interesting to see the controversy over "national" anthems. Here in the US I have never heard of anyone wanting to sing any sort of state anthem. I think most states have some sort of state song and I would guess than 99% of the populace has no idea of what their state song is or what it sounds like. Even athletes from the bits of the US that once were independent nations such as Hawaii* or Texas don't go to events to claim the prizes in the name of their state but as members of the US team. The United Kingdom has existed as a nation for almost as long as the United States, being only 11 years younger that the US.

The only time I recall any problems in the US was in 1968 when a couple of athletes made a mockery of the medal ceremony. No sense getting divisive and mentioning their ethnicity but they were not on the swimming team.


*I would guess that perhaps the royal family would have problems with the US anthem. No one else would.

Nobody has tried to break your states up into bite size EU digestable chunks is why.

Originally Posted by joey_deacons_lad

Nobody has tried to break your states up into bite size EU digestable chunks is why.

Not since the 1860's and the Civil War (excuse me JJH, the War of Northern Aggression)

Originally Posted by DavidBOC

As a septic observer It is interesting to see the controversy over "national" anthems. Here in the US I have never heard of anyone wanting to sing any sort of state anthem. I think most states have some sort of state song and I would guess than 99% of the populace has no idea of what their state song is or what it sounds like. Even athletes from the bits of the US that once were independent nations such as Hawaii* or Texas don't go to events to claim the prizes in the name of their state but as members of the US team. The United Kingdom has existed as a nation for almost as long as the United States, being only 11 years younger that the US.

The only time I recall any problems in the US was in 1968 when a couple of athletes made a mockery of the medal ceremony. No sense getting divisive and mentioning their ethnicity but they were not on the swimming team.


*I would guess that perhaps the royal family would have problems with the US anthem. No one else would.

You don't have a political party actively trying to break up your Union
You don't have politicians actively trying to give away your sovereignty to foreigners.

Both are sore points for some of us

Originally Posted by jagman

You don't have a political party actively trying to break up your Union
You don't have politicians actively trying to give away your sovereignty to foreigners.

Both are sore points for some of us

I understand. Our only concern is becoming the northern province of Mexico.

Originally Posted by Barry Buddon

I don't wish to appear reactionary or dramatic but all four colonials should be publicly flogged for a first offence then branded with the Royal coat of arms . The Scots Dyke or however you pronounce it should be sent back to Nigeria/USA . While I'm here can we not just hang draw and quarter Alex Salmond and just maybe people will stop getting ideas .

I think you'll find they were here long before you Germanic illegal immigrants.

And 'no' you're not being reactionary...just making a cunt of yourself.

Originally Posted by Dicey

I think you'll find they were here long before you Germanic illegal immigrants.

And 'no' you're not being reactionary...just making a cunt of yourself.

Agreed. I can't be bothered to respond to crap like that. It's all getting a bit monotonous now.

Originally Posted by DavidBOC

As a septic observer It is interesting to see the controversy over "national" anthems. Here in the US I have never heard of anyone wanting to sing any sort of state anthem. I think most states have some sort of state song and I would guess than 99% of the populace has no idea of what their state song is or what it sounds like. Even athletes from the bits of the US that once were independent nations such as Hawaii* or Texas don't go to events to claim the prizes in the name of their state but as members of the US team. The United Kingdom has existed as a nation longer than the United States, being 70 years older than the US first declaration of independence (which wasn't immediately recognised anyway).

Fixed that for you.

Originally Posted by chocolate_frog

Fixed that for you.

My understanding is that the United Kingdom as it exists today includes England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Ireland was not part of the United Kingdom until the the Act of Union of 1800. The 13 colonies joined as the United States with the ratification of the constitution in 1789. Of course Ireland became self governing in the 20's except for 6 of the 9 counties of Ulster.

Of course one could keep moving the goalposts and say that the US did not exist until Hawaii became a state in 1959.