ARmy Rumour SErvice

**yorkie71** · 14-07-2012, 23:24

Originally Posted by Tinman74

So you missed all the fun, jammy cunt!

fking right I did, too old for that shit these days, thank fk

**BedIn** · 15-07-2012, 00:51

Originally Posted by Jimr

So sniper takes out terrorist pilot..! What happens to the plane...!?!
Or
Sniper disables plane..! Still what happens to the plane...!!!

As for the shotgun. There's lots of pigeons in London..!! Wouldn't want bird strike...!!!

Heli snipers usually fire at surface targets. They miss, but that's what they engage.

**BedIn** · 15-07-2012, 00:54

Originally Posted by Buzz

Does the shot gun fire something non lethal for marking targets? as that also seems to be a laser designator under the barrel like you use for painting targets when you call in air strikes.

Fuck me.

No, what the fuck could a smooth bore weapon hit from a heli?

And that isn't a laser designator. It is a piece of kit on issue in theatre. I'm not sure of opsec so I'll not elaborate. However, whilst serving soldiers may be baffled why a combat shotgun with that piece of kit underneath is on a heli, they will know what the kit is.

**Buzz** · 15-07-2012, 00:55

Originally Posted by BedIn

Heli snipers usually fire at surface targets. They miss, but that's what they engage.

There is a reason why none of us dignified the window licker with an answer.

**Flash MacTavish** · 15-07-2012, 00:55

Originally Posted by yorkie71

please learn your drills, fk me I#ve been out for 12 yrs and I still remember, gash bastard

Hmmmm...Is the correct reply to this, " Get some time out"?

**Buzz** · 15-07-2012, 01:04

Originally Posted by BedIn

Fuck me.

No, what the fuck could a smooth bore weapon hit from a heli?

And that isn't a laser designator. It is a piece of kit on issue in theatre. I'm not sure of opsec so I'll not elaborate. However, whilst serving soldiers may be baffled why a combat shotgun with that piece of kit underneath is on a heli, they will know what the kit is.

Oh do get over your self, it's got a lens and there is a radiation/laser warning sticker on it of some sort so it either takes piccies/video in one spectrum or other or it projects something to paint targets with so stop with the nose tapping you know better free mason routine will you?

Oh look a 3 second google reveals an open source saying it emits a great big fucking lazer making it a laser designator with the power to dazzle as well - just like I fucking said it was. You can designate targets to the naked eye and not just incoming attack aircraft with the magic green goggles on.

http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio...ptical_Warner/

The threat at the Olympics is a car or a persons on foot trying to get into a crowd, a helicopter makes a farily good cut off in that circumstance as it doesn't have to stay out of small arms range. Being able to paint that suspect is well handy.

**yorkie71** · 15-07-2012, 01:04

Originally Posted by Flash MacTavish

Hmmmm...Is the correct reply to this, " Get some time out"?

wtf fuck are you on about? it was a convo with a mucker so fk off you class A dick

**Flash MacTavish** · 15-07-2012, 01:07

Originally Posted by yorkie71

wtf fuck are you on about? it was a convo with a mucker so fk off you class A dick

And a bite.

**BedIn** · 15-07-2012, 06:58

Originally Posted by Buzz

Oh do get over your self, it's got a lens and there is a radiation/laser warning sticker on it of some sort so it either takes piccies/video in one spectrum or other or it projects something to paint targets with so stop with the nose tapping you know better free mason routine will you?

Oh look a 3 second google reveals an open source saying it emits a great big fucking lazer making it a laser designator with the power to dazzle as well - just like I fucking said it was. You can designate targets to the naked eye and not just incoming attack aircraft with the magic green goggles on.

http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio...ptical_Warner/

The threat at the Olympics is a car or a persons on foot trying to get into a crowd, a helicopter makes a farily good cut off in that circumstance as it doesn't have to stay out of small arms range. Being able to paint that suspect is well handy.

Now I'm sober - it is a laser dazzle weapon. It doesn't paint targets; the laser still has to be eye safe even if it isn't pleasant to look at. As a result it is of limited range and brightness, so no use for indicating/designating targets, especially from a heli.

The combat shotgun with the big shot is good at putting people on their arse at shortish range. The dazzle weapon is good at dissuading people (so is usually used on top cover in towns or on gates to put off drivers coming too close too fast). Neither of these will be happening from a heli.

The only purpose I can see for that combo is to put the bloke on the ground close to a suspected suicide bomber. Within 100m he can dissuade none lethally and then lethally. But he's engaging nothing with either from a cab in the air.

**Buzz** · 15-07-2012, 07:01

Originally Posted by BedIn

Now I'm sober - it is a laser dazzle weapon. It doesn't paint targets; the laser still has to be eye safe even if it isn't pleasant to look at. As a result it is of limited range and brightness, so no use for indicating/designating targets, especially from a heli.

The combat shotgun with the big shot is good at putting people on their arse at shortish range. The dazzle weapon is good at dissuading people (so is usually used on top cover in towns or on gates to put off drivers coming too close too fast). Neither of these will be happening from a heli.

The only purpose I can see for that combo is to put the bloke on the ground close to a suspected suicide bomber. Within 100m he can dissuade none lethally and then lethally. But he's engaging nothing with either from a cab in the air.

It does paint targets as it's in the visable spectrum, the advertsing blurb says so.

Thats the whole point, it lets the blokes with guns pick them out as being marked for getting shot and the dazzle effect lets the the target know he is in trouble as well, if not you wold have no reliable way of pointing the thing.

I also already mentioned it being useful against people who were suspected of being a suicide bomber, if they still try to ignore the strobing laser in the eyes and commands then the chap with the 417 or LMT is going to light you up, if under 100 metres away and most likely closer if the heli is used as a cut off for runners or vehicles in a public space like the carpark outside an event or when the helicopter is on the ground then he or she is still getting a load of buck shot for their trouble if they keep advancing. If you are claiming a military helicopter can't run a person down like that then you are talking shite as half the forum including me have been in one whipping along at 50 foot off the ground with the door open.

It's still a laser designator - or is that still top secret like you claimed last time?

You were wrong and pedanting , so pack it in FFS.