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Originally Posted by Boumer

Entertainingly, I knew at least one ex-Parachute Regiment chap who got thrown off a SO19 course because he couldn't keep his mouth closed and was telling the instructors what to do with firearms. He got in on a subsequent course. Reassuring.

Wow, thats really cool. You knew 'At least One Ex Parachute Reg chap'...........Are you sure it wasn't two, or three?

Seagul is right on that. Police shoot to neutralise a threat, not to kill. If that only way to neutralise that threat, is to kill the offender, then so be it, and some people shot will die as a result of being shot. A shoot to kill policy, dictates that the officer taking the shot intends to kill the target and won't consider any less than lethal options, de-escalation of a situation, or provide medical care to them. This clearly isn't the case with the police, and probably also for large parts of the military in our current commitments (the option for this is much less however because of the massively increased risk to the troops involved)

However, Seagull if you've got a point, make it, otherwise I'm going to ignore the slanging match, as I can't be bothered with it. The reason I don't see Windsor as such a bad thing, is that it aims to get rid of all the lazy fuckers, and to improve fitness levels, and because i won't lose out massively on the new system. If I had 24yrs in, I would feel differently. The police are going to lose this battle though, because we can't argue properly. Federation just whip up a storm of rhetoric and organise a march. How about sitting down and doing a bit of give and take. Double time for bank holidays is hard to justify, but double time for any overtime hours done after say a 12hour shift, or OT after 0400 would be easier, and more useful to us in many ways. Pensions are going to take a hit. It's not just us, it's all public sector, and like they say, if you don't like then go an chat to someone in the private sector and then rethink your situation.. We need to accept this and take it as a hit, but be gracefull and use it to knock something else off the table - maybe putting conditions on the redundancy scheme. I don't think that would be used overly anyway, look at A19, most forces didn't use it because it wasn't cost effective and you lost fully trained and often keen and competent cops. If you disagree with this, give me your opinion and I'll genuinely be interested to hear why.

Or is the military ROE and Law so much different?

I'd think the old JSP 385 is the nearest equivilent on UK mainland.

Originally Posted by Shortty

......anyway, look at A19, most forces didn't use it because it wasn't cost effective and you lost fully trained and often keen and competent cops. ....

For those non literate in police jargon, reg A19 is the forced retirement of officers after 30 years service: https://meetings.gmpa.gov.uk/documen...ixA_Policy.pdf

Methinks the DM read arrse and plagiarise. shocker!

Tottenham Court Road siege: Freeze! It's Dixon of Glock Green | Mail Online

Originally Posted by supermatelot

Methinks the DM read arrse and plagiarise. shocker!

Tottenham Court Road siege: Freeze! It's Dixon of Glock Green | Mail Online

Did you see this Best rated comment?
I went onto the Army Rumour Service forum and to be honest the squaddies are rolling about laughing about toytown rambo's playing dress-up.

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Originally Posted by scalieback

I thought that was to get Keith Blakelock's body initially?............

wrong end of London - Keith Blakelock was murdered in Broadwater Farm

Originally Posted by Poppy

wrong end of London - Keith Blakelock was murdered in Broadwater Farm

Yep, my bad Having seen what was left of his uniform in the Black Museum, not nice whichever part of London he was killed.