- 28-04-2012, 14:52 #101
Have a look at this: MPA: Committees: Communities, Equalities and People Committee reports - 03-Mar-11 (0

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- 28-04-2012, 14:56 #102To eat well in England one must have breakfast three times a day
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- 28-04-2012, 14:59 #103
Sounds similar to the Prevent counter-terrorism initiatives that have been undertaken.
Four posts on the team. Fantastic for PDR I suppose, or spots for the "old and bold" or recuperative duties. Winsor recomendations will make sure that they're replaced by civillian staff.
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- 28-04-2012, 15:00 #104
About 17-18 years ago I lived in Leathwaite Road, SW11 - and opposite a house which came under some serious police scutiny one Sunday morning.
20 -odd armed plod hard-targeted the building, and eventually 3 or 4 of them with MP5's shuffled up to the front door behind a ballistic shield. I was expecting them to use a frame charge at least, but, being UK plod - they knocked on the door. They eventually kicked it in , and came out empty handed 5 mins later.
I found out afterwards that the bloke - a loony with an air pistol - had seen the OB outside, so he dropped his mattress out of his 1st floor window into the back garden, dropped on to it, climbed a few garden fences and then broke into a house. He walked out of the front door, through the police cordon, and scarpered."YOU - Assume the position!"

- 28-04-2012, 15:02 #105
Back on the ID stuff I'm a bit concerned about that. Why carn't each team have an assigned 3 number code so that within a team you could ID an indivdual. Their mums could sew it on their ski masks or if they Have to have police on the BA why not on that. It would also stop some walt nutter joining in the fun.
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- 28-04-2012, 15:17 #106
Sometimes SF are their own worst enemy (not saying that this lot are - especially since it is Glocks and not SIGs). What's wrong with wearing full on crye mtp, military issued plate carriers and helmets, all the kit plus plus. At least you'll look the business, scare the crap out of everyone, and people will know exactly who you are. You can still conceal identities easily enough.
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Yeah Buddy That's His Own Hair
That Little Faggot Got His Own Jet Airplane
That Little Faggot He's a Millionaire"
- 28-04-2012, 15:18 #107
SWAT analysis! (geddit?)
...Glenda Slagg, News at 10."As we moved slowly through the outskirts of the town we passed row after row of little grey slum houses running at right angles to the embankment. At the back of one of the houses a young woman was kneeling on the stones, poking a stick up the leaden waste-pipe which ran from the sink inside and which I suppose was blocked. I had time to see everything about her - her sacking apron, her clumsy clogs, her arms reddened by the cold. She looked up as the train passed, and I was almost near enough to catch her eye." Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier
- 28-04-2012, 15:59 #108Senior Member
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I can't comment on marksmanship, however I was witness to a uniformed firearms copper at a annual public military event wander into the smoking area (it was indoors so this was a few years ago), prop his MP5 against a wall where it promptly fell over, revealing that the safety was off. A large Bootie WO2 who was also having a fag in said area wandered over, and calm as you like asked whether the weapon was made ready, the copper responded with something along the lines of "non-of your business" - cue a massive explosion as the WO2 informed the unfortunate plod that it was very much his business and if there had been an ND in his presence lots of very unpleasant and violent things would have happenened to him etc etc.
I would have enjoyed the whole thing a lot more if it hadn't been as a result of dangerous behaviour."The Intelligence officer - or non-commissioned officer - with his enquiring mind, his refusal to accept everything at face value, and with his interest in what has happened limited to the help it will be in in estimating what is going to happen, is "different", and therefore still, to a certain extent, suspect."
- 28-04-2012, 16:35 #109
Not an isolated event. Was minding my own business in my nick one day, when I heard the sound of a pistol being made ready.
I put my head around a corner to look down the corridor to see a copper with a self-loading pistol in his hand, pointing at an office door.
The door opened and a friend of mine (who was ex-RGJ) quietly asked if he had just made ready pointing at his office door.
There was a frank exchange of views.
Maybe it's me, and I'm not plod-bashing. These are full-time AFOs and the drills do not seem as rigorous as the forces from my admittedly limited exeperience of both green and blue.
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- 28-04-2012, 17:10 #110
A mate of mine used to serve with Lothian and Borders. Apparently their Armed Response Unit was told(along with just about every police ARU in the country)that they would have to significantly improve their skills if they were to work with CO19 during mutual aid for the Olympics.
The response from Lothian and Borders finest was, "We'll try to improve, but we don't know if we can reach the Met's standards when it comes to shooting unarmed Brazilian electricians or drunks armed with a loaded table legs..."
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