Buggered if I know (see what I did there?)

Any hole is a goal is it not? So being a shunter not a grunter is okay and shouldn't at all diminish your male hetero-tiger credentials.
Taker?
It's only gay if you push back.
More than a few times.
In a minute.
Stick by those strict rules and man love is downright manly and not gay at all.

Allegedly. A nice man from across the road from Buller Barracks wearing a maroon beret informed me of this when I was but a baby squaddie. He wouldn't have lied because if he did then I fell somewhat soiled...

Originally Posted by Hairy_Hacker

Any hole is a goal is it not? So being a shunter not a grunter is okay and shouldn't at all diminish your male hetero-tiger credentials.
Taker?
It's only gay if you push back.
More than a few times.
In a minute.
Stick by those strict rules and man love is downright manly and not gay at all.

Allegedly. A nice man from across the road from Buller Barracks wearing a maroon beret informed me of this when I was but a baby squaddie. He wouldn't have lied because if he did then I fell somewhat soiled...

My question: I understand that the giver doesn't see himself as gay because "any hole is a goal is it not"? Is the giver is always the masculine one and the taker the effeminate? Can a masculine be a taker?

Originally Posted by Noir

My question: I understand that the giver doesn't see himself as gay because "any hole is a goal is it not"? Is the giver is always the masculine one and the taker the effeminate? Can a masculine be a taker?

I suppose it boils down to whether you're 'setting the pace' or not?

Originally Posted by Hairy_Hacker

I suppose it boils down to whether you're 'setting the pace' or not?

Now what does it mean? Can one 'set the pace' and be giver? I don't get it, sorry

You've got me thinking now. More in line of what constitutes 'gay'. I suppose you can be very masculine and gay so it's not down to masculinity. You're no less of a man for botty love than you're less of a woman for clam-jousting.
But within this context when I refer to 'setting the pace' it rather implies the one in 'control', the one dictating what goes on etc would be the more 'gay' of the pair. Or the very least the more enthused
Here was me just hoping for a facetious addition to a funny thread. Now you've done made me thunk.

Originally Posted by Hairy_Hacker

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But within this context when I refer to 'setting the pace' it rather implies the one in 'control', the one dictating what goes on etc would be the more 'gay' of the pair.

The "control" means the taker, right?

Originally Posted by Noir

The "control" means the taker, right?

Not necessarily. Whatever your persuasion.

Am I being groomed?

So,what does "pushing back" count as?

Originally Posted by vvaannmmaann

So,what does "pushing back" count as?

Stretching out to avoid cramp in ones shins?