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Discuss Under Fire at the The NAAFI Bar forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; Originally Posted by Ord_Sgt 'kin hell mate, you class that as fun ? You need ...
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    Re: Under Fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Ord_Sgt
    'kin hell mate, you class that as fun? You need to get out more, seriously.
    Fair point....

    However, although some might think this a little over-kill, the Steyr AMR / IWS 2000 will penetrate 40mm of RHA at 1km - so even if said scroat is hiding behind, say, two or three semi-detached houses, you should still be able to "wing" him with a round or two....

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    Re: Under Fire

    A good reason to stop smoking?
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    Re: Under Fire

    Quote Originally Posted by blind_monkey
    To assist Plod, create a 180 degree spotting card, centered on your house.

    Maximum effective power of a standard issue air-rifle is 12ft. Lbs. This should give the rifle an effective range of around 40 yards (1" grouping)(small game).

    If you're lucky, and the scroat has something a little more tasty, say in the 20ft. Lbs.+ range, then effective range is about 80 yards+. This would require an FAC - either way, said scroat is in deep sh1t.

    Bracket for both eventualities.

    Mark out using best-guess (or cheap laser range finder) all likely observation points giving line-of-sight access to your home, in increments of 20 yards; 20, 40, 60, 80, 100 etc. (likely prone, standing, elevated positions).

    If you can, recover one of the offending pellets, and where in relation to your spotting card it was found. Examine the pellet closely to see how deformed/or not it is. This should give some indication as to how far out your likely shooter is.

    Draw straight lines from the point at which you found the pellet and cross-reference to each obs point on your spotting card etc etc.

    This should allow you to begin to plot a list of likely spots your shooter is operating from - also start to make notes of changing artifacts/patterns around your marked spot-points; curtains, lights, cars, dogs barking, sudden bird flight etc.

    Build a timing diary and keep a log of known/future incidents to see if you can establish if the shooter has an operational pattern.

    If pattern can be established, infil as close as you can to any one of the likely shoot-points. Get the wife to parade around, then listen and wait.

    Repeat.

    With luck you can a) have some fun and b) catch the scroat red-handed and then either hand the whole bundle over to plod - or preferably put up a posting here and request some 'counter sniping' assitance.

    Can hardly see the shooter complaining to plod he's been shot (at).....
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    Re: Under Fire

    Just seen this in the Grown Up section
    http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=141301.html
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    Re: Under Fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Tartan_Terrier
    Quote Originally Posted by blind_monkey
    To assist Plod, create a 180 degree spotting card, centered on your house.

    Maximum effective power of a standard issue air-rifle is 12ft. Lbs. This should give the rifle an effective range of around 40 yards (1" grouping)(small game).

    If you're lucky, and the scroat has something a little more tasty, say in the 20ft. Lbs.+ range, then effective range is about 80 yards+. This would require an FAC - either way, said scroat is in deep sh1t.

    Bracket for both eventualities.

    Mark out using best-guess (or cheap laser range finder) all likely observation points giving line-of-sight access to your home, in increments of 20 yards; 20, 40, 60, 80, 100 etc. (likely prone, standing, elevated positions).

    If you can, recover one of the offending pellets, and where in relation to your spotting card it was found. Examine the pellet closely to see how deformed/or not it is. This should give some indication as to how far out your likely shooter is.

    Draw straight lines from the point at which you found the pellet and cross-reference to each obs point on your spotting card etc etc.

    This should allow you to begin to plot a list of likely spots your shooter is operating from - also start to make notes of changing artifacts/patterns around your marked spot-points; curtains, lights, cars, dogs barking, sudden bird flight etc.

    Build a timing diary and keep a log of known/future incidents to see if you can establish if the shooter has an operational pattern.

    If pattern can be established, infil as close as you can to any one of the likely shoot-points. Get the wife to parade around, then listen and wait.

    Repeat.

    With luck you can a) have some fun and b) catch the scroat red-handed and then either hand the whole bundle over to plod - or preferably put up a posting here and request some 'counter sniping' assitance.

    Can hardly see the shooter complaining to plod he's been shot (at).....
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    Re: Under Fire

    Quote Originally Posted by blind_monkey
    If you're lucky, and the scroat has something a little more tasty, say in the 20ft. Lbs.+ range, then effective range is about 80 yards+. This would require an FAC - either way, said scroat is in deep sh1t.
    From memory if the shot lands outside of the bounds of the land your cleared to shoot over it counts as a full blown fire arm offence, and thus a 5 year term.

    Of course that's based on hazy memories from many years ago, and knowing the Government we've probably had about 500 new editions of the fire arms act, so the above may be like a eunuchs memories, Full of bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listy

    From memory if the shot lands outside of the bounds of the land your cleared to shoot over it counts as a full blown fire arm offence, and thus a 5 year term.

    Of course that's based on hazy memories from many years ago, and knowing the Government we've probably had about 500 new editions of the fire arms act, so the above may be like a eunuchs memories, Full of balls.
    Probably right - it's been 19 years since I was last at the operational end of a Long - either way though - this is either someone being careless with his back garden target practice, or something a little more spirited - either case I'd say the event(s) warrant a disproportional response...
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    Cat shite catapult is normally a good response, but that would involve hanging about - call the fuzz and let them do the work.
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    Re: Under Fire

    Quote Originally Posted by longlivethequeen
    Right chaps dnt no if this is the right place to post this but here goes.
    Whilst having a fag in the back garden (her in doors hates them) some twat lets rip with an air rifle just missing this old git, after mutch swearing and hunting around one could not the prick that was firing.

    Should one call the old bill?

    Stag on through the night and hope they try it again?

    Let it drop and hope it does not happen again?

    The frau informs me its happen on and off through the day, thick cow could have told me.

    If staging on shouuld I take my own air rifle out and or the trusty base ball bat.
    Reactive O.P. You know it makes sense.

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