Thread: A little unrest in the Tower

[quote="chocolate_frog"]No expert myself, but according to Her Majesties very own website.


http://www.royal.gov.uk/RoyalEventsa...enWarders.aspx

[quote]While their role is usually confined to the Tower of London, the Yeomen Warders do take part in one State ceremony. At Coronations, they form a guard of honour inside the annexe at Westminster Abbey.People get a bit confused with Yeoman Warders and Yeoman of the Guard

Yeomen Warders:

Yeomen Warders are the colourfully-dressed bodyguards on duty at the Tower of London.

While a Royal Guard provided by the Foot Guards mounts on Tower Green every day at noon, the Yeomen Warders provide a ceremonial guard for this ancient Royal palace and fortress.

One of their main ceremonial functions is the daily Ceremony of the Keys. In this ceremony the gates of the Tower of London are secured each night shortly before 10.00 pm by the Chief Yeoman Warder escorted by an armed guard of four men.

After locking the gates, the Chief Yeoman Warder is challenged by a sentry bringing his rifle into the on-guard position.

He allows him to pass after recognising the Chief Warder as the bearer of Queen Elizabeth's keys by saying 'Pass, Queen Elizabeth's keys, and all's well'.

The Chief Yeoman Warder and his escort are met by a ceremonial guard on the Broad Steps near the White Tower, which then presents arms.

The Chief Warder concludes the ceremony by raising his Tudor bonnet and proclaiming 'God preserve Queen Elizabeth', to which all present reply 'Amen'.

The keys are then carried by the Chief Yeoman Warder to safekeeping, whilst the Last Post is sounded.

The ceremony has taken place over the same piece of ground, in war as well as peace, for about 700 years.

Although it is open to the public on application to the Tower of London for invitations, the ceremony is usually heavily booked.

While their role is usually confined to the Tower of London, the Yeomen Warders do take part in one State ceremony. At Coronations, they form a guard of honour inside the annexe at Westminster Abbey.

The State dress uniforms of Yeomen Warders are almost identical to those of the Yeomen of the Guard, but the Yeomen of the Guard can be distinguished by their cross belts worn from the left shoulder.

For everyday duties, Yeomen Warders wear a dark blue and red undress uniform.

Yeomen of the Guard

Dressed in their distinctive Tudor uniforms of red, white and yellow, The Queen's Body Guard of the Yeomen of the Guard has a ceremonial role in many Royal events.

Yeomen of the Guard take part in the annual Royal Maundy Service; the State Opening of Parliament; the Epiphany Service in the Chapel Royal at St James's Palace; all investitures and summer Garden Parties at Buckingham Palace; the installation of Knights of the Garter at Buckingham Palace; the investiture of The Prince of Wales; and at the coronations, lying-in-state, and funeral of the Sovereign.

There are 73 Yeomen of the Guard, all of whom are former officers and sergeants of the British Services.

Yeomen of the Guard are not the same as the Yeomen Warders who guard the Tower of London, although their uniforms are almost identical. The Yeomen of the Guard can be distinguished by their cross belts, worn from the left shoulder. They carry a sword, which is not drawn, and a halberd known as a 'partisan'.

The Body Guard of the Yeomen of the Guard was created by Henry VII in 1485 at the battle of Bosworth.

It is the oldest of the Royal bodyguards and the oldest military corps in existence in Britain.

Originally Posted by johnboyzzz

People get a bit confused with Yeoman Warders and Yeoman of the Guard

Yeomen Warders:

Yeomen Warders are the colourfully-dressed bodyguards on duty at the Tower of London.
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One of the distinctions that the article doesn't cover is that the appointment of the Yeoman of the Guard is a honourary one, unpaid apart from expenses.

Yeoman Warders on the other hand are employed as civil servants, and receive a salary and tips.

Having read this:
Another PoV
It would appear to be more of a bruised ego than bullying per se,
with the authorities overcompensating.

Johnboyzzz - interesting distinction.
Thank you.

Originally Posted by Gren

Sorry mate, but I know one of those found guilty and in my opinion , he is not a bully, if anything, he is a pi55taker, but nothing more.

There, fixed that for you!

Originally Posted by Gren

Well thank god you arent a judge then you fooktard.

Why is it crap? because it is closer to the truth than some balls put up by the said woman and her veggie treehugging girlfriends?

The sooner PC and all that shite is gone, the sooner this country can get back to being normal.

Your comments on this thread speak for themselves. If they represent your view as to what is acceptable behaviour in the Forces or in the employ of Her Majesty, I suggest your view about your mate being a "decent guy" who was just "having a bit of a laugh" is somewhat questionable.

I couldn't give a fcuk if she was male, female, black, white or green, she has clearly come into a tight knit organisation and fcuked it up. I couldn't give a sh1te about her, but she should have come in with her eyes open. She should have learned in her 22 years that if you can't take a joke etc, and although the warders should have (maybe did) have some briefings on this, her whining has just made a laughing stock of the whole historic appointment.
I will almost certainly take fire for this attitude, but I am sick to the back teeth of this sort of sh1te

I bet the Red Arrows fellas are shitting themselves...

Originally Posted by the_guru

I couldn't give a fcuk if she was male, female, black, white or green, she has clearly come into a tight knit organisation and fcuked it up. I couldn't give a sh1te about her, but she should have come in with her eyes open. She should have learned in her 22 years that if you can't take a joke etc, and although the warders should have (maybe did) have some briefings on this, her whining has just made a laughing stock of the whole historic appointment.
I will almost certainly take fire for this attitude, but I am sick to the back teeth of this sort of sh1te

Not from me. Totally agree.

Originally Posted by msr

Originally Posted by Gren

Is it just me, or does anyone else think this is a bit of PC world gone mad, taking the side of a lezzer to be seen to be doing the right thing "PC" wise?

No, she wasn't happy with the way she was treated and he got his just desserts.

MSR

How do you know that?

He asked his PSI.

Interesting article in the mail on sunday which puts one of the "Bullies" side of the story.
two things stuck in my mind from the article.
1 He was sacked because he didn't speak to her at a piss up and she took the hump.
2 She said it would be wrong to sack him, but he got sacked anyway.

I hope he sues and gets a fortune, and whoever let this non story get out of hand ends up on the dole.

That Emily Pankhurst has a lot to answer for.
All this woman has done is highlight her weakness as a woman, falling back on the 'sexist' PC line instead of getting on with it. Obviously she must have been the same during her 22 years, she didn't learn much during her service.

VH

Blame lies with the CO and MoD for creating such such a fnuck up in the first place. Clearly the PC impetus to get a woman - any woman - into the Beefeater job overrode any real-world management consideration of whether this was the right individual for the position, or whether a bit more leadership was going to be required to get the male Beefeater clan on board with the idea. I'd wager that, additionally, the difficulty of assessing a female candidate was exacerbated by a stack of CRs that had in turn been written over the years with a PC gloss. Same happens in civilian business......

Originally Posted by FiveAlpha

He asked his PSI.

:D

TBH, I have no idea about what actually happened at the tower.Her complaints though sound like somebody wingeing about not being popular rather than someone getting harassed. That is just my opinion as I have no inside info.

After reading the interview with 'The Sacked Beefeater' I'm inclined to think she's a precious tart. Hope the bloke gets re-instated.

If all her hair fell out due to stress, does it mean she's got a 'shaven haven'?