Thread: Medals, medals and more medals ...

Originally Posted by skintboymike

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Originally Posted by BootsDMS

I know others who have at least 3 medals (all issued),that have never done a tour or fired a shot in anger.

What 3 medals are those then?

Northern Ireland (cushty residential tour in slipper city), LS&GC, QGJM? Plus the ACSM if the individual does two residentials back to back.

Hmmm. Not all residential tours in 'Slipper City' were 'cushty' you know.

Originally Posted by CAARPS

Originally Posted by skintboymike

Originally Posted by RedLeg_1011

MBE,OBE,QSJM,QGJM,LS&GC

Is the anyone out there who owns both QSJM and QGJM?

There certainly isn’t anyone who owns an MBE & OBE or if it was written in the correct order of precedence OBE & MBE

I'll bet there are - you just give up the MBE if you get an OBE and move up the 'order' don't you? You certainly wouldn't put MBE, OBE after your name. Or even OBE, MBE, or any other random order of O,B.E and M.

I heard a rumour many moons ago that they were on about doing a gong for being on Op Fresco! Anyone hear of it? More importantly can l have mine please!

Originally Posted by CAARPS

Originally Posted by skintboymike

Originally Posted by RedLeg_1011

MBE,OBE,QSJM,QGJM,LS&GC

Is the anyone out there who owns both QSJM and QGJM?

There certainly isn’t anyone who owns an MBE & OBE or if it was written in the correct order of precedence OBE & MBE

And while I am at it, in my mind the ACSM was set up for a outstanding reasons, i.e to recognise soldiers who had spent extended periods on operations, however, quickly became a Northern Ireland residential medal.

Not that I am trying to sound too churlish but there is a big difference between an Op Tour and a man who can return to his block/home and family every night and still qualify for a medal (Usually, like everything there are exceptions)

It would be very interesting to see how many lads actually have the ACSM that have not done the NI residential bit (and huge respect to them).

Outrage begin

Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker

Originally Posted by CAARPS

Originally Posted by skintboymike

Originally Posted by RedLeg_1011

MBE,OBE,QSJM,QGJM,LS&GC

Is the anyone out there who owns both QSJM and QGJM?

There certainly isn’t anyone who owns an MBE & OBE or if it was written in the correct order of precedence OBE & MBE

I'll bet there are - you just give up the MBE if you get an OBE and move up the 'order' don't you? You certainly wouldn't put MBE, OBE after your name. Or even OBE, MBE, or any other random order of O,B.E and M.

You’ve just answered your own question

Originally Posted by Biggles4221

I heard a rumour many moons ago that they were on about doing a gong for being on Op Fresco! Anyone hear of it? More importantly can l have mine please!

NO and erm NO :D

Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker

Originally Posted by skintboymike

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Originally Posted by BootsDMS

I know others who have at least 3 medals (all issued),that have never done a tour or fired a shot in anger.

What 3 medals are those then?

Northern Ireland (cushty residential tour in slipper city), LS&GC, QGJM? Plus the ACSM if the individual does two residentials back to back.

Hmmm. Not all residential tours in 'Slipper City' were 'cushty' you know.

Nobody said they were ALL cushty, just some were, for the select lucky few.

Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Originally Posted by BootsDMS

I know others who have at least 3 medals (all issued),that have never done a tour or fired a shot in anger.

What 3 medals are those then?

OK - you could crack a SJM, an LS&GC and a GJM with no tours at all. But you'd have to be quite old to be serving now.

The reason i said about the 3 medals was because i was at a parade last year & the guy wearing them,who i have known for many years,is an ACF instructor.
He told me that he actually felt embarressed about them when standing near people who had less medals,but who had them for op tours.
I think they felt worthless to him.

He was lucky to get a Silver Jubilee Medal aswell wasn't he?

Or are you allowed to wear it if you qualified but just weren't issued it like so many?

I believe you can have an OBE and an MBE if one is civil division and the other is military division. I have tried to find 'evidence' of this but I can't and I may be confusing it with the rules that applied to BEM's awarded for bravery.

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

There are blokes with 8 medals or more who have never fired a shot in anger. Doesn't mean they haven't earnt them. I suppose it depends on what line of work they are in.

Absolutely - what about an EOD AT expert who spends his tours walking the long walk but doesn't necessarily spend a lot of time with a bayonet charging enemy trenches? Or the RLC driver in a Helmand convoy, or the Siggy EW guys and countless other CEG's / jobs? It's a big jigsaw and everyone has a part.

Originally Posted by CAARPS

Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker

Originally Posted by CAARPS

Originally Posted by skintboymike

Originally Posted by RedLeg_1011

MBE,OBE,QSJM,QGJM,LS&GC

Is the anyone out there who owns both QSJM and QGJM?

There certainly isn’t anyone who owns an MBE & OBE or if it was written in the correct order of precedence OBE & MBE

I'll bet there are - you just give up the MBE if you get an OBE and move up the 'order' don't you? You certainly wouldn't put MBE, OBE after your name. Or even OBE, MBE, or any other random order of O,B.E and M.

You’ve just answered your own question

I didn't ask a question - I thought I was trying to answer one...........

Originally Posted by BuggerAll

I believe you can have an OBE and an MBE if one is civil division and the other is military division. I have tried to find 'evidence' of this but I can't and I may be confusing it with the rules that applied to BEM's awarded for bravery.

BEM although part of the order was a different award and therefore you can indeed hold a BEM and MBE.

KBE, CBE, OBE & MBE are, in the simplest terms ranks and you can not hold two ranks at once.

There are no separate post nominals for the civilian and military division i.e. OBE(M), however the military ribbon differs from the civil one with a pearl stripe running down the centre.

Incidentally Op military awards in the Order of the British Empire Division used to be signified by some sort of a leaf of rosette to distinguish them from normal military awards.

Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker

Originally Posted by CAARPS

Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker

Originally Posted by CAARPS

Originally Posted by skintboymike

Originally Posted by RedLeg_1011

MBE,OBE,QSJM,QGJM,LS&GC

Is the anyone out there who owns both QSJM and QGJM?

There certainly isn’t anyone who owns an MBE & OBE or if it was written in the correct order of precedence OBE & MBE

I'll bet there are - you just give up the MBE if you get an OBE and move up the 'order' don't you? You certainly wouldn't put MBE, OBE after your name. Or even OBE, MBE, or any other random order of O,B.E and M.

You’ve just answered your own question

I didn't ask a question - I thought I was trying to answer one...........

:D :D :D

This is bound to get messy. He said, I said, you said………

I said no one owns an MBE & OBE, you said “I bet there are�. You then said, “You just give up the MBE if you get an OBE�. That is correct, if you get promoted in the order you are required to return your ‘lesser’ medal.

Therefore you cannot hold an MBE and OBE at the same time.

See, clear as mud

Originally Posted by k13eod

Originally Posted by FiveAlpha

They could always buy bling and wear it - just like you did with a self-bought blingy QGJM.

Oh look ... 5A still stalking me ... I have already PM'd you to apologise ... I swear I didn't know they were your mother and daughter.

Now, as you are referring to comments I made quite some time ago perhaps I said things then in reaction to other comments regarding what I did/didn't buy or indeed wear.

But before you attempt to out me as a walt ... this was me on Armed Forces Day:



... and at the 33 EOD Regt Freedom parade ...

Hard to see you well, leaning out the ship/boat. Big bloke in a blazer is in the way! :D