Medals, medals and more medals ...

**dingerr** · 02-07-2009, 17:57

Sorry BA my flippancy obviously didn't come across very well in the post.

**BuggerAll** · 02-07-2009, 18:04

Flippancy is good, its like cheap sarcasm.

**cantbearsed2** · 02-07-2009, 18:05

edited for not thinking statement through

apollogies to all

**dingerr** · 02-07-2009, 18:16

Originally Posted by cantbearsed2

talking of medals who,s going to pay for all these sterling silver elisabeth medals ,seeing as its proposed to give them to every war widow going back to the 2nd world war to the present day.

not saying they dont deserve some recognition but are we going down the lines of our american friends and awarding a medal for flying over a war zone etch,..

Are you stupid? Posting drivel such as this on an Army oriented website.

If you served you would understand that the cost is irrelevant and it is indeed nothing to compare with other nations medals.

Finally, learn to spell our monarchs name correctly you CUNT!

**3isgreen** · 02-07-2009, 18:16

Some of you might be aware that in the late 60s early 70s there was talk of awarding what was talked of being called "The Army Medal",to be awarded for a period of 7 years,and not being linked to "Good Conduct" however this was knocked back as being too expensive by the then "Liarber" government.
Also at this time there was talk of bringing the Army's LS&GC into line with the other services,by having to do 15 years instead of the 18 it then was,the same for the MSM down from 27 years to 21.It took a few years for them to do this i notice.

**Nutter** · 02-07-2009, 18:30

Originally Posted by Kitmarlowe

Originally Posted by tattybadger

When I can be arrsed to get excited about medals, my shit is gripped by the fact that TA wallahs get a very smart medal and a post nominal for three gallons of unleaded petrol, two packs of weetabix and five weekends of pissing it up in some dingy, seedy little TAC (or, indeed, completing several hairy-arsed op tours), whereas those of us whose weekends are regarded as precious time to be spent with family or on the lash, get only a crappy little vets badge, bad knees, gout, piles and absolutely no recognition whatsoever.

VRSM is a post nominal? f**k that, I don't want people thinking I'm a coffin dodger!

Your not, dont worry I remember seeing someone get his VRSM 3rd bar in 2006.

**jibman** · 02-07-2009, 18:35

Originally Posted by cantbearsed2

talking of medals who,s going to pay for all these sterling silver elisabeth medals ,seeing as its proposed to give them to every war widow going back to the 2nd world war to the present day.

not saying they dont deserve some recognition but are we going down the lines of our american friends and awarding a medal for flying over a war zone etch,..

same as dingerr said! daft cnut.

**hantsbloke** · 02-07-2009, 18:49

Originally Posted by Nutter

Originally Posted by Kitmarlowe

Originally Posted by tattybadger

When I can be arrsed to get excited about medals, my shit is gripped by the fact that TA wallahs get a very smart medal and a post nominal for three gallons of unleaded petrol, two packs of weetabix and five weekends of pissing it up in some dingy, seedy little TAC (or, indeed, completing several hairy-arsed op tours), whereas those of us whose weekends are regarded as precious time to be spent with family or on the lash, get only a crappy little vets badge, bad knees, gout, piles and absolutely no recognition whatsoever.

VRSM is a post nominal? f**k that, I don't want people thinking I'm a coffin dodger!

Your not, dont worry I remember seeing someone get his VRSM 3rd bar in 2006.

I don't think so,

Complete rubbish!

**Nutter** · 02-07-2009, 19:05

Originally Posted by hantsbloke

Originally Posted by Nutter

Originally Posted by Kitmarlowe

Originally Posted by tattybadger

When I can be arrsed to get excited about medals, my shit is gripped by the fact that TA wallahs get a very smart medal and a post nominal for three gallons of unleaded petrol, two packs of weetabix and five weekends of pissing it up in some dingy, seedy little TAC (or, indeed, completing several hairy-arsed op tours), whereas those of us whose weekends are regarded as precious time to be spent with family or on the lash, get only a crappy little vets badge, bad knees, gout, piles and absolutely no recognition whatsoever.

VRSM is a post nominal? f**k that, I don't want people thinking I'm a coffin dodger!

Your not, dont worry I remember seeing someone get his VRSM 3rd bar in 2006.

I don't think so,

Complete rubbish!

its was some sort of bloody long service medal then although the guy was in his 60's, and still in the TA. Before you cry WAHHHHHHHHH, why would I make one so obvious, and It may have been a second bar but he definately already had one bar, possibly two on it, didnt really pay much attention.

**Bubbles_Barker** · 02-07-2009, 19:17

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Originally Posted by Closet_Jibber

The ACSM will definately start clocking up names on its list of winners.

It is harder than ever to qualify for the ACSM now. A soldier would have to complete 7 tours of Afghanistan. 2 year NI tours are a thing of the past.

I would've thought that a 2 year tour in NI was the norm right now, if not longer. The issue is whether these tours still qualify for the GSM 1962 and therefore the ACSM - I don't know (although Antrim would suggest that they certainly should).

This is close to my heart - I only have to clock up another 20 odd days service to get a bar to my ACSM but somehow I don't think it'll happen

**R14D** · 02-07-2009, 19:24

Third Bar... if traded in EM(T) and used bars. only equals 25 years. If I'd opted for the VRSM instead of continuing with EM(T) i would be due mine now (third bar), so not impossible.

**Fallschirmjager** · 02-07-2009, 19:28

Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker

I would've thought that a 2 year tour in NI was the norm right now, if not longer. The issue is whether these tours still qualify for the GSM 1962 and therefore the ACSM - I don't know (although Antrim would suggest that they certainly should).

This is close to my heart - I only have to clock up another 20 odd days service to get a bar to my ACSM but somehow I don't think it'll happen

A 2 year tour is the norm, however time there doesn't qualify you for the ACSM as no GSM is awarded.

**Bubbles_Barker** · 02-07-2009, 19:33

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker

I would've thought that a 2 year tour in NI was the norm right now, if not longer. The issue is whether these tours still qualify for the GSM 1962 and therefore the ACSM - I don't know (although Antrim would suggest that they certainly should).

This is close to my heart - I only have to clock up another 20 odd days service to get a bar to my ACSM but somehow I don't think it'll happen

A 2 year tour is the norm, however time there doesn't qualify you for the ACSM as no GSM is awarded.

So 2 year tours aren't a thing of the past, they just don't qualify for a GSM? Pretty rum for those two lads that were killed in Antrim eh?

I could in fact have the chance of a two year tour in NI tomorrow if I wanted to run for the job - not sure I could face the weekend commute though :(

**BootsDMS** · 02-07-2009, 19:45

You know sometimes LESS is MORE!

By that i mean that sometimes a few medals being worn,is sometimes more impressive than a long rack.

The more commemorative medals being worn,the more it seems to devalue the genuine ones earned.

If you've earnt the medals issued,why the hell would you want to water them down with some other peace of crap that does'nt really have any story or background to it?

I know people who wear just a single GSM/or GSM & SAM.I know others who have at least 3 medals (all issued),that have never done a tour or fired a shot in anger.

Both of those medals i mentioned are worth ten times any commemerative bling.