Thread: Problematic Nephew

There's a lot to be said for a severe beating

I really don't think it's roid rage.
Although I am prepared to be wrong.
We had a chat not long ago about him not using roids as it's a mugs game.
He agreed with me & said he wants to be naturally fit/strong.

As I said in my original post, his dad is an arsehole on the drink & doesn't drink anymore.
It took me pressing charges against him for assault (he grazed me with a head butt) to get it through to him though. I won't bore you all with details. Suffice to say he actually came off worse than me in the ensuing scuffle.
I just think it's stress with A-Levels, sweating on going to Uni, & the drink (like his dad).

Originally Posted by Miner

Originally Posted by ted-stryker

Miner
You mention his recent behaviour is out of character and he's been caning the weights, any chance he's on the roids?

Hmm, I don't think so. He's very anti drugs.
But it could be a possibility.

P.S. MDN, now you're being silly.

I'm very anti drugs, but that doesn't mean that I didn't use something to help me through my exams.

The way to keep him in check is to threaten to write to the President of the board in westbury if he does anything like it again. If he is serious about being an officer then this should be enough to temper his behaviour.

Whilst you're at it, give him all of the advice that other posters have suggested as well. If that doesn't sort him out then nothing will.

Get down the pub with him, get the beers in and have a chat, nice and friendly like. Wait till he goes for a slash and ninja the little fecker. :D
Palm his swede into the tiles and tip him into the pi55 gutter. Let him feel how it is when people flip out for no reason Point out it will only get worse if he hits your sister again.

I feel that force needs to be met with overwhealming force.

Dunno about Roid abuse, sounds like he's suffering NBPE. :D

Remain calm. Remind him about the pro's and con'sof the Sandhurst issue and criminal record etc. Pretend to care about what he has to say and offer useful advice in relation to the drink.

Then (Important this bit) Firmly grab the back of his neck like a mob boss grabs one of his drivers when he takes him to one side. Rock him backwards and forwards gently a few times and say "If I ever hear that you have raised your hands to my sister ever again, I'll rip your face off." In your spare hand it is important that you are holding a suitable kitchen/garden instrument to do this with (I reccomend a fork).

If his reaction is negative proceed to go through him like mouldy chicken. Pepper him with lefts and rights before headlocking him and throwing his head through an upstairs window. This is where you have to have a bit of a nasty streak. Proceed to pick up his X Box and smash it as many times as you can over the back of his now considerably bruised and bleeding head. Keep tight hold in order to keep it intact for aslong as possible. As soon as it breaks up remove his phone and Picture message his mates with the words "You're Next."

Finally drag him into the bathroom and throw him in the bath. Turn on the taps and then go and use the now free power cable from the X Box to do what feels right (You may need an extension plug).

If he's normal when not drinking it's probably not steroids.

I remember trying to talk sense into a rugger bugger students - this is Glasgow, you are your pals have beat people up, destroyed places, thrown chips at folk on busses......it can only be a matter of days before the city bites you. He took no notice and I actually walked past when the biting happened a couple of days later. They had been kicking off in an Asian restaurant, the management quietly got a massive team from all the surrounding restaurants assembled in the kitchens at the first sign of trouble, waiters knock f*ck out of them, cops lift the rugger buggers and next stop its the Buddhist chanting in Marine Police Station in Partick and your expected career as doctor, solicitor, teacher is screwed.

This kid sounds as if he's had some marginal parenting, and it can "cause" (dodgy term) lots of problems. I had that too, and from 17 to (at least) 29 I was lucky time after time in managing to avoid the worst of the consequences. A head full of loose-ish wiring, a sense of entitlement, grievances, physical strength, testosterone................all manageable if you add, i) self-interest, and ii) sobriety. Without these two things it's straight to the scene of the accident, unless you throw a six repeatedly as the patron saint of arseholes bails you out.

Originally Posted by gobbyidiot

This kid sounds as if he's had some marginal parenting, and it can "cause" (dodgy term) lots of problems. I had that too, and from 17 to (at least) 29 I was lucky time after time in managing to avoid the worst of the consequences. A head full of loose-ish wiring, a sense of entitlement, grievances, physical strength, testosterone................all manageable if you add, i) self-interest, and ii) sobriety. Without these two things it's straight to the scene of the accident, unless you throw a six repeatedly as the patron saint of arseholes bails you out.

My bold
Unfortunately I have to agree with you.
Sporadic spousal abuse (my brother-in-law) on my sister over the years. I was not aware of a lot of it until very recently (I'm 15yrs younger than my sisters). Most happened when I was still a kid. She won't leave him because she "loves" him. Can't get my head around it and it's too late in the day for retrospective "correction" from me on him now. Although he is aware if he touches her again it'll be the last time he does anything in this life.
Weak punishment from my sister. Over reaction from my brother-in-law. Plus constantly hearing off my parents of how much of a twat his dad is.
My own dad said when my nephew wasn't even 2yrs old, that he'd grow up to be a mental case with all that goes on in the house.
I fear he may be right.

Originally Posted by Miner

Originally Posted by gobbyidiot

This kid sounds as if he's had some marginal parenting, and it can "cause" (dodgy term) lots of problems. I had that too, and from 17 to (at least) 29 I was lucky time after time in managing to avoid the worst of the consequences. A head full of loose-ish wiring, a sense of entitlement, grievances, physical strength, testosterone................all manageable if you add, i) self-interest, and ii) sobriety. Without these two things it's straight to the scene of the accident, unless you throw a six repeatedly as the patron saint of arseholes bails you out.

My bold
Unfortunately I have to agree with you.
Sporadic spousal abuse (my brother-in-law) on my sister over the years. I was not aware of a lot of it until very recently (I'm 15yrs younger than my sisters). Most happened when I was still a kid. She won't leave him because she "loves" him.

You just nailed it. Seen it before. What you learn early is what you learn. It takes a strong man to break the pattern.

Not sure if its been said already, if he's 18 threaten to boot him out on the street if he does'nt screw the nut. If he carries on as was........boot him out.

Worked with Eggbanjo Junior..........and he's now serving in the army.

Tell him you will go somewhere for a nice quite chat.
Arrive at a Boxing gym take him into the ring and throw him a pair of gloves,you putting on the other,Have a referre as well.
Dont take any explanation from him,drag him in the ring and tell him we will find out hard he is now he is sober.

If he refuses tell him you will leather him outside of the ring in some back alley and with no referee...after dropping him and him coming around tell if he ever shows disrespect,violence etc you will repeat this process..in ring or outside..his choice.

And after all boxing is a Army sport,so you are only preparing him for his future.
He might just get the message.

Or he might look up to Uncle Miner who just beat the crap out of him, and decide he wants to be just like him, only harder

Originally Posted by M1A1shooter

Tell him you will go somewhere for a nice quite chat.
Arrive at a Boxing gym take him into the ring and throw him a pair of gloves,you putting on the other,Have a referre as well.
Dont take any explanation from him,drag him in the ring and tell him we will find out hard he is now he is sober.

If he refuses tell him you will leather him outside of the ring in some back alley and with no referee...after dropping him and him coming around tell if he ever shows disrespect,violence etc you will repeat this process..in ring or outside..his choice.

And after all boxing is a Army sport,so you are only preparing him for his future.
He might just get the message.

This addresses the symptoms, not the cause, which is problem drinking.

MSR

Originally Posted by acidedge

Seriously, he needs a slap from his Mum. I had a similar attitude when I was 18 and I ended up right in my Mum's face screaming at her and being quite intimidating. She hadn't hit me in years so I thought it would not happen but she clocked me one. I turn about, scream at her that "I am 18 now and she can't do that to me!" blah blah so she clocked me one again. I calm straight down, realised I was still a kid and was acting up. Trust me, it helps. And she is only 5'4", but I never said anything out of line again :D

Same as this except I was 16 and it was my dad.

Originally Posted by devexwarrior

Originally Posted by acidedge

Seriously, he needs a slap from his Mum. I had a similar attitude when I was 18 and I ended up right in my Mum's face screaming at her and being quite intimidating. She hadn't hit me in years so I thought it would not happen but she clocked me one. I turn about, scream at her that "I am 18 now and she can't do that to me!" blah blah so she clocked me one again. I calm straight down, realised I was still a kid and was acting up. Trust me, it helps. And she is only 5'4", but I never said anything out of line again :D

Same as this except I was 16 and it was my dad.

Same here too. My Mum joked with me about it last summer saying it had been a turning point etc etc. I told her I agreed but unfortunately her actions of yesteryear would come back to haunt her in the form of me choosing the cheapest and nastiest old folks home to spend the rest of her days in "Whats that Granny Farmboy, you don't like being bunjeed to a chair all day with only one meal"

It did wipe the smile off her face for a while. Only joking of course my Mum is the best, but it does make you think that as Kids the scope for revenge does come later in life....should you so choose