Thread: Worst non-fiction war film

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Pearl Harbour was cr@p on an epic scale

Seconded. Not even uber-posh totty Kate Bekinsdale could make it worth watching...

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Pearl Harbour was cr@p on an epic scale

I believe the American Navy said something similar, round about 3pm on the 7th. May well have been stronger words, actually.

Originally Posted by old_fat_and_hairy

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Pearl Harbour was cr@p on an epic scale

I believe the American Navy said something similar, round about 3pm on the 7th. May well have been stronger words, actually.

The Yanks could have bombed Tokyo on the next day, from the Phillipines, if Mac Arthur had not been such a prat, they had a fare few B17s there but they allowed the Japs to take ths initiative.

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Pearl Harbour was cr@p on an epic scale

Seconded. Not even uber-posh totty Kate Bekinsdale could make it worth watching...

Yum yum, Kate....... must watch the Underworld DVD's again just for that black PVC body suit.....

Originally Posted by wildcard.rgbw

Does anyone have a "non-fiction" account of war which has been put into the big screen that is so horrendously crap it deserves a mention?

I'll start with Bravo Two Zero, mainly all that gung-honess, ie. way they pepperpot forwards at 2 heavily armoured troops carriers.

WTF would you know?

There were you?

Originally Posted by PsyWar.Org

Originally Posted by Bradstyley

Funny how they've never made a film about Kasserine pass...

It's briefly portrayed at the beginning of Patton but, of course, the defeat was the fault of the "British" commander and lack of British air support.

Also portrayed I think...in the 1980 lee marvin film 'The Big Red One'...anyway that's all of no consequence...its big in 'Medal of Honour' and as I slot all the 'Boxheads' its a win win all round...

I don't know what the film is called but I spotted a new Vietnam war film DVD in HMV last monday.

The blurb on the back did say it was a Vietnam war film but the US soldier in the picture on the front of the box was carrying a WW2 vintage M1 carbine, while the helicopter whizzing past in the background was a Blackhawk FFS!



Thought I'd give that a miss and treated myself to a copy of MASH instead...

Rodney2q

Originally Posted by tropper66

Originally Posted by old_fat_and_hairy

Can I just cite 'Objective Burma' starring Eroll Flynn as an honest and totally accurate of the war in Burma, and how much the American input helped and, indeed, saved the day. Without their help and bravery, not to mention sheer fighting ability, who knows what may have happened?

There were in fact thousands of American troops in Burma

The USarmy QM Corps
The AVG
The Air Commando
The US Army Air Corp
The Long Range Penatration Regiment, (Merrill's Marauders)

see "Defeat into Victory" Field Marshal Viscount Slim

They certainly were there but in the same way the British Pacific fleet was 'there' at the end of the war. The Yanks did all the work in the latter but were also-rans in the Burma War.

We (the Generals) did queer things a bit, by miss using the chindits, once Wingate was killed though :(

Originally Posted by StumpyHussar

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They certainly were there but in the same way the British Pacific fleet was 'there' at the end of the war. The Yanks did all the work in the latter but were also-rans in the Burma War.

We (the Generals) did queer things a bit, by miss using the chindits, once Wingate was killed though :(

I recall this is the one that Flynn himself raised some objections to them putting Yanks fictitiously in the forefront. It got booed by British troops and the few Yanks actually involved. I recall enjoying it as a nipper.

The Septics are not alone in nationalistic war flick narcissism. I can't recall a British or Australian WWII far East movie that fully acknowledge that Indians did a lot of hard of the fighting. Or for that matter Canadians and Poles in the Western theater. The Poles pop up occasionally but more as ethnic color than major actors. Russians and Chinese rarely get an even shake despite doing most of the dying.

As to drivel: What's that one where yerman Owen Wilson ditches in Serbia and solves all the problems of the Balkans???

A little historical accuracy would be nice. It might be a change to the Allies (heroically) getting their arses handed to them by Eastern front seasoned Wehrmacht troops in France while the population get slaughtered in crossfire.

Incidentally I recommend The Boys Crusade to anyone with Band Of Brothers type delusions about the greatest generations martial qualities. Brave they were but mostly under trained, often badly led and out matched by the enemy.

Originally Posted by alib

Originally Posted by StumpyHussar

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They certainly were there but in the same way the British Pacific fleet was 'there' at the end of the war. The Yanks did all the work in the latter but were also-rans in the Burma War.

We (the Generals) did queer things a bit, by miss using the chindits, once Wingate was killed though :(

I recall this is the one that Flynn himself raised some objections to them putting Yanks fictitiously in the forefront. It got booed by British troops and the few Yanks actually involved. I recall enjoying it as a nipper.

The Septics are not alone in nationalistic war flick narcissism. I can't recall a British or Australian WWII far East movie that fully acknowledge that Indians did a lot of hard of the fighting. Or for that matter Canadians and Poles in the Western theater. The Poles pop up occasionally but more as ethnic color than major actors. Russians and Chinese rarely get an even shake despite doing most of the dying.

As to drivel: What's that one where yerman Owen Wilson ditches in Serbia and solves all the problems of the Balkans???

A little historical accuracy would be nice. It might be a change to the Allies (heroically) getting their arses handed to them by Eastern front seasoned Wehrmacht troops in France while the population get slaughtered in crossfire.

Incidentally I recommend The Boys Crusade to anyone with Band Of Brothers type delusions about the greatest generations martial qualities. Brave they were but mostly under trained, often badly led and out matched by the enemy.

VERY true about the Indian troops, they were just ethnic add-ons in ours as well despite being the massive bulk of the army. 3rd army still got the sh1t end of the stick regards publicity though and the Chindits were rock hard. No films of them at all as I remember!

Braveheart

Speaking of canadians, we only get bit parts in both Band of Brothers and A Bridge Too Far...this despite clearing the Scheldt, Juno Beach, the Italian campaign and participating in Op Varsity (amongst others).

As for Objective Burma, it is mentioned with disdain by George Macdonald Fraser in 'Quartered Safe Out Here'....

My vote would have to go for a very recent addition to the pantheon of crap fiction, the newly released:

Hurt Locker

The Canucks and The Indian involved in Italy do play a prominent part in the film "The English Patient".

Originally Posted by exbleep

Braveheart

That and "The Patriot"
I f ucking hate Braveheart,1000's of thick schemie numptys actually believe it is an acurate portrale of Scottish History.
Nothing f ucking worse than being in a pub during a Scotland game and hearing misinformed Tartan Army t wats reciting Mel"I hate the British"Gibson's freedom speech.



c unts.

Originally Posted by jockmod69

''ZULU''

I know where you live.....