Thread: Worst non-fiction war film

Yeah, a film about Kasserine Pass, not a film about Patton that gives a very short and rather innacurate portrayal of events at Kasserine Pass! Again, the War of 1812, they don't dwell on that one too much either...and I actually like yanks in the main, they're just so dishonest about history!

Originally Posted by Miner

Originally Posted by PsyWar.Org

Originally Posted by Bradstyley

Funny how they've never made a film about Kasserine pass...

It's briefly portrayed at the beginning of Patton but, of course, the defeat was the fault of the "British" commander and lack of British air support.

Also briefly seen in "The Big Red One".

Patton blamed the Brits for everything, but in the real world Kasserine was due to crap Septic leadership, in fact 26 Armoured Brigade, a British unit just about saved the day with there attack at Thalam and even though the got kicked to crap they releived the pressure on US units

Originally Posted by Miner

Originally Posted by tropper66

Originally Posted by Miner

Hollywood wanted to make a film about Stalingrad.
Until someone pointed out that no Americans were there, & that the Russians managed very well on their own thank you very much.

"Enemy at the Gates" mean anything to you

I was joking about Hollywoods "re-writing" of history, & how they saved the world from dinosaurs, aliens, Bonaparte, Ghengis Khan, the Moors, & the Spanish Armada.

Plus the fact that 'Enemy at the Gates' was a european made film and all the americans in it played Nazis!

Originally Posted by tropper66

Originally Posted by Miner

Originally Posted by PsyWar.Org

Originally Posted by Bradstyley

Funny how they've never made a film about Kasserine pass...

It's briefly portrayed at the beginning of Patton but, of course, the defeat was the fault of the "British" commander and lack of British air support.

Also briefly seen in "The Big Red One".

Patton blamed the Brits for everything, but in the real world Kasserine was due to crap Septic leadership, in fact 26 Armoured Brigade, a British unit just about saved the day with there attack at Thalam and even though the got kicked to crap they releived the pressure on US units

Patton was a great general but also a total gloryhound, his and Bradley's hate campaign against monty was based more on resentment of having to share the glory then any cogent criticism of his generalship...

Can I just cite 'Objective Burma' starring Eroll Flynn as an honest and totally accurate of the war in Burma, and how much the American input helped and, indeed, saved the day. Without their help and bravery, not to mention sheer fighting ability, who knows what may have happened?

Originally Posted by Bradstyley

they're just so dishonest about history!

it's because they don't have much of it, so thier trying to make what they do have seem as good as possible.

Originally Posted by phaserrifle

Originally Posted by Bradstyley

they're just so dishonest about history!

it's because they don't have much of it, so thier trying to make what they do have seem as good as possible.

A bit like a balding chap going with a comb over then?

Everyone knows that Errol Flynn beat the Japs in Burma ..

and what about that Yank on the motorbike obtruded into The Great Escape ..

The irritating thing is that there were some honourable Yanks who came and signed up before Roosevelt belatedly (with a slight prod from the Japs) got his act together. For instance, try & get hold of a copy of 'Yankee RN' or see the plaque in the corner of the deck in the Painted Hall at Greenwich. Also, there was a Yank in the Catalina that made a crucial sighting of the Bismarck in the Atlantic in May 1941.

Originally Posted by old_fat_and_hairy

Can I just cite 'Objective Burma' starring Eroll Flynn as an honest and totally accurate of the war in Burma, and how much the American input helped and, indeed, saved the day. Without their help and bravery, not to mention sheer fighting ability, who knows what may have happened?

There were in fact thousands of American troops in Burma

The USarmy QM Corps
The AVG
The Air Commando
The US Army Air Corp
The Long Range Penatration Regiment, (Merrill's Marauders)

see "Defeat into Victory" Field Marshal Viscount Slim

My late uncle was in 36 Div under Stilwell .. but I think I'll stop there.

Originally Posted by old_fat_and_hairy

Can I just cite 'Objective Burma' starring Eroll Flynn as an honest and totally accurate of the war in Burma, and how much the American input helped and, indeed, saved the day. Without their help and bravery, not to mention sheer fighting ability, who knows what may have happened?

Fcuk - you just broke my Sarcasm-Meter!

Originally Posted by Bradstyley

Funny how they've never made a film about Kasserine pass...

...really. Never seen 'The Big Red One'?.

Edit: As already mentioned. Just read the whole thread.

Originally Posted by tropper66

Originally Posted by old_fat_and_hairy

Can I just cite 'Objective Burma' starring Eroll Flynn as an honest and totally accurate of the war in Burma, and how much the American input helped and, indeed, saved the day. Without their help and bravery, not to mention sheer fighting ability, who knows what may have happened?

There were in fact thousands of American troops in Burma

The USarmy QM Corps
The AVG
The Air Commando
The US Army Air Corp
The Long Range Penatration Regiment, (Merrill's Marauders)

see "Defeat into Victory" Field Marshal Viscount Slim

Another real good read is "The Generals, from victory to Defeat"by Robert Layman, gives a good insight into the FarEast war on both sides, the bits about the Japs are realy interesting

I'm just reading 'D-Day, Forgotten Voices' and something i didn't know was just how many British troops, including naval types were actually involved on the American beaches. Never noticed them in 'Shaving Ryan's privates'

Pearl Harbour was cr@p on an epic scale