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Originally Posted by Wordsmith

[snip]What part of soviet history are you going to airbrush next?

Wordsmith

Any bit that's uncomfortable. It's along-established symptom of Russian feelings of insecurity, under the Tsars and the Commissars, and latterly (I guess) the wannabe superstar who modelled for Compare the Meerkats.

Now, unless you want this thread to hit Mach 2 on its way downhill, you could just put the sockpuppet Domovoy on your ignore list.

Just a thought.

as far as i know the trial consisted of been led into a bunker
that was lined with logs...told to face the wall an that was it
dragged through a second door
an into the back of a truck
if adolf won and the bodies discovered...he loses
if adolf loses and the bodies discovered..he loses

Originally Posted by Domovoy

Yet another cliché...

1. That Soviets were responsible for Katyn was a claim made by Dr.Goebbels.
2. POLISH Red Cross investigated the mass graves and came to a conclusion that it was done by Germans. Among the evidence pointing to that were: German manufactured cords on victims' hands; German bullets used; the trajectory of the bullets that were consistent with German way of execution, but not with that of NKVD; and a great number of personal artefacts and signed garments (it was against NKVD regulations to allow ANY personal items on the executed!). Btw, some people identified by their personal items were later found live and well in Poland...
3. The conclusions of Polish Red Cross were excepted at Nurnberg. The revision to Dr.Goebbels version of events started in mid 80-s in preparation for the dismemberment of the USSR.

Of course, the findings and the conclusions of the POLISH Red Cross who were first to examine Katyn we should disregard because Dr.Goebbels said it were Soviets who did it in Katyn, and the leadership that destroyed the Soviet Union at behest of the US appologised.
Then why did the same Russian leadership refuse to pay Poland compensation for Katyn and demanded documented proof, the proof the Polish Institute of National Rememberance said they LOST!!!!

If Polish latest claims were true, Poland’s Institute of National Remembrance would not have "lost" the related documents just at the time they were required to produce them in order to swindle Russian Federation for compensation.

Incidentally, I've never heard Poles or any other "civilised nation" cry out in indignation at "Polish officers" torturing to death some 80 000 Soviet POW in concentration camps in 1920-s; or using army and death squads against Galitchian peasants during famine of 1930-s.

Good lord I hope Your trolling, but im ignoring you just in case

Originally Posted by evil belly

as far as i know the trial consisted of been led into a bunker

I'm not surprised. That pretty much sums up Western "knowledge" of the USSR/Russia.

laughing
i reckon thats as much as the people that lived in the place knew aswell
unky joe didnt encourage questions

Originally Posted by evil belly

i reckon thats as much as the people that lived in the place knew aswell
unky joe didnt encourage questions

And that comes from the same source of "knowledge" as your previous example, I dare say...

Originally Posted by supermatelot

Probably not well known because all Germans who died in the war are often wrongly equated to NAZIs. So it's probably been kept quiet due to modern day embarrassment of what people before us got up to.

I never had the thought, or the time to ask my grandad about "his" war. I thought I was living one of my own only a few years after joining up. I remember him once saying though, in response to I can't exactly remember...: "They were sailors, not nazis". I think I asked him if he hated them or something like that. Dunno, I was young and can't remember exactly.

Wish I could ask the fucker a few questions now though...

What he said may have been true.

But the sailors weren't on the Eastern front - and the evidence there, of near-universal Wehrmacht participation in war crimes as a matter of routine, is overwhelming.

Originally Posted by BuggerAll

I've been told that the dark oppressive nature of the Langemark Cemetary is a how the Belgiuns want(ed) it. The Germans were unwanted guests and they don't (didn't) want them to forget it.[snip]

Like the Frogs, the Belgiques were niggardly in the amount of real estate they were prepared to accord the Boche for the burial of their war dead.

Nevertheless, Langemarck is entirely German in conception, design and in sentiment. It is entirely in line with Herman military custom up to that point in history.

It is also the first place Adolf went, to give a speech on the day after Belgium fell in WW2.

These days, it and the Hun cemetery in Normandie, is maintained by teams of young Kraut volunteers, who are bussed in from time to time to tidy up and carry out maintenance - it is seen in Der Vaterland as part of the process of reminding young Germans of the follies of their forebears.