ARmy Rumour SErvice

**Bingobongo** · 26-04-2012, 00:21

The anticipation is killing me...

**Screw_The_Nut** · 26-04-2012, 00:22

Originally Posted by Dollsteeth

Good link and quality pictures, I wonder if any of the resident yanks (JJH) might discuss whether the opinion of US soldiering in Vietnam has improved since Iraq/Afghan? Has the level of respect from the general public increased Or was it ever thus?

Since these are the SF troops, I'm going to guess that the standard of soldiering was pretty damned high in 'nam, from these chaps.

**filthyphil** · 26-04-2012, 00:37

Originally Posted by BugzDaMick

The Septics went to Vietnam expecting it to be like a Hollywood filum. Then they comrehensively got their arrses handed to them, quietly withdrew and declared it a win. That's the way to win a war, innit?

MsG

U.S acknowledges K.I.A approx 58 000, NVA/VC KIA is put at 1,100 000 by Hanoi. Comprehensively? I don't fucking think so.

**BugzDaMick** · 26-04-2012, 00:39

Originally Posted by Goldbricker

Next he will regale us with how the Oirish are war winners (except in Oirland for some reason) something like Irish-French relations (so drunk they cant run from Panzers)

Au

So along comes this Septic called "Goldbricker" and offers her or his opinion. So what? Who's interested?
MsG

**Screw_The_Nut** · 26-04-2012, 00:47

By all accounts the US wooped ass in Vietnam, the war wasn't "lost" as such, it just became unpopular. The main reason modern historians attribute to US withdrawal was the development of modern media, and the US military lack of understanding of war fighting under such scrutiny.

**jumpinjarhead** · 26-04-2012, 00:51

Originally Posted by BugzDaMick

The Septics went to Vietnam expecting it to be like a Hollywood filum. Then they comrehensively got their arrses handed to them, quietly withdrew and declared it a win. That's the way to win a war, innit?

MsG

Losing the war does not equate to having our arses handed to us as you so quaintly put it. I think you are confusing that with the American Revolution in terms of having arses handed out.

**beagleboy** · 26-04-2012, 00:53

Originally Posted by Screw_The_Nut

Hey, go to page 50 of that thread, check out the SASR guys and their weapons, it's the 'Old'n'Bold's wet dream!

Copy that!

Err.......I might know someone who might of looked up to some of those guys who were Cadre Staff during selection and other 'stuff'.

**goatrutar** · 26-04-2012, 01:07

Originally Posted by Screw_The_Nut

Hey, go to page 50 of that thread, check out the SASR guys and their weapons, it's the 'Old'n'Bold's wet dream!

There's some interesting gear there. The L2A1 with the UGL would've had some serious firepower.

I've fired the "normal" version and it was entertaining to say the least.

**BugzDaMick** · 26-04-2012, 01:15

Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead

Losing the war does not equate to having our arses handed to us as you so quaintly put it. I think you are confusing that with the American Revolution in terms of having arses handed out.

An interesting point indeed, JJH. The Septics thoroughly lost the war but won .... what? The "peace" maybe?

The truth is that the Septics fucked up big-time when they engaged in Vietnam. Just wanting to be a major power doesn't automatically equate to being one, just because that seemed to be what was required at the time. Just a thought!

MsG

**beagleboy** · 26-04-2012, 01:21

Originally Posted by goatrutar

There's some interesting gear there. The L2A1 with the UGL would've had some serious firepower.

I've fired the "normal" version and it was entertaining to say the least.

The L1A1 that was a 'cut-down' is in the Snakes Pit up against the bar, it was/is called 'The Bitch'. From all accounts think L1A2 with the sound of a .50 cal. This is all allegedly mind you.