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16-02-2010, 13:28 #1Senior Member
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US Airborne Helmet Markings
After watching the complete Band of Brothers in HD whilst it was free on Virgins TV on demand service I was always curious about the helmet markings they had. Well, after a quick search I found this rather good guide:
http://www.101airborneww2.com/insignia3.html
What I did notice, which I think was missed out in the BoB series was the 'ticks' that were used to designate individual units along side the main unit markings. Anyway, a bit spotterish, but puts the mind to rest.There are, it has been said, two types of people in the world. There are those who, when presented with a glass that is exactly half full, say: this glass is half full. And there are those that say: this glass is half empty.
The world belongs, however to those who can look at the glass and say: 'What's up with this glass? Excuse me? Excuse me? This is my glass? I don't think so. My glass was full! And it was a bigger glass!'.
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16-02-2010, 14:57 #2Senior Member
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Re: US Airborne Helmet Markings
If you dig deeper into that website he takes Ambroses version of BoB and puts it against the actual records
Very good reading
Oh and wasn't it vertical stripe for NCO's and horizontal for officers on the back of the helmet (or the other way round_We should remember the tremendous contribution of the Queen Mother to the war effort:
As the BBC pointed out, she 'bravely remained in London beside her husband' during the war.
This contrasts sharply with the actions of my grandfather who, on the declaration of war immediately left his wife and children and pissed off, first to France, then North Africa, Italy, France (again) and finally Germany.
The shame will always be with us.
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16-02-2010, 16:51 #3Senior Member
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Re: US Airborne Helmet Markings
If you look closely (spotter here) BoB did indeed have the ticks (or dots) to indicate the battalion (or RHQ) within the regiment. To be fair, the research done by the makers of the TV series was FAR better than that done by Ambrose! They even got the identity (and markings) of the 15/19th Hussars at Nuenen correct.
Officers - vertical stripe. NCOs - horizontal.
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Re: US Airborne Helmet Markings
Reading through the critique of BoB he seems a bit bitter that they didnt come to him, picking up some realy small mistakes, still very interesting and he knows his stuff.
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If Iraq was such a threat to everyones national security why did only take two f**kin weeks to take over the whole country!
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Re: US Airborne Helmet Markings
Originally Posted by instinct
Reading through the critique of BoB he seems a bit bitter that they didnt come to him, picking up some realy small mistakes, still very interesting and he knows his stuff. Originally Posted by Speedy
He does a bit but reading this and a few other thing I get the impression Ambrosde managed to fukc quite a few people offWe should remember the tremendous contribution of the Queen Mother to the war effort:
As the BBC pointed out, she 'bravely remained in London beside her husband' during the war.
This contrasts sharply with the actions of my grandfather who, on the declaration of war immediately left his wife and children and pissed off, first to France, then North Africa, Italy, France (again) and finally Germany.
The shame will always be with us.
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27-02-2010, 04:17 #6Senior Member
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Re: US Airborne Helmet Markings
This was on T.V the other day Originally Posted by Signalman
Batleground (1949) with actual veterans as technical advisors
You can see the helmet markings here
The tick on the BoB helmets is harder to spot as it's at the 6 O'Clock position
We should remember the tremendous contribution of the Queen Mother to the war effort:
As the BBC pointed out, she 'bravely remained in London beside her husband' during the war.
This contrasts sharply with the actions of my grandfather who, on the declaration of war immediately left his wife and children and pissed off, first to France, then North Africa, Italy, France (again) and finally Germany.
The shame will always be with us.
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27-02-2010, 05:16 #7Senior Member
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Re: US Airborne Helmet Markings
You should see what the lads that took Pegasus Bridge thought of Ambrose! Originally Posted by the_boy_syrup
Originally Posted by instinct
Reading through the critique of BoB he seems a bit bitter that they didnt come to him, picking up some realy small mistakes, still very interesting and he knows his stuff. Originally Posted by Speedy
He does a bit but reading this and a few other thing I get the impression Ambrosde managed to fukc quite a few people offThe stopped clock of The Belfast Telegraph seems to indicate the
time
Of the explosion - or was that last week's? Difficult to keep
track:
Everything's a bit askew, like the twisted pickets of the
security gate, the wreaths,
That approximate the spot where I'm told the night patrol
went through.
'Gate' by Ciaran Carson
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27-02-2010, 09:19 #8Senior Member
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Re: US Airborne Helmet Markings
IIRC even Ambrose has admitted that he made mistakes in his research for that book. Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker
You should see what the lads that took Pegasus Bridge thought of Ambrose! Originally Posted by the_boy_syrup
Originally Posted by instinct
Reading through the critique of BoB he seems a bit bitter that they didnt come to him, picking up some realy small mistakes, still very interesting and he knows his stuff. Originally Posted by Speedy
He does a bit but reading this and a few other thing I get the impression Ambrosde managed to fukc quite a few people offIt is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up,
As true today as in 1320.
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27-02-2010, 21:25 #9Senior Member
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Re: US Airborne Helmet Markings
His books are littered with mistakes almost every German Tank has an 88 mm gun Originally Posted by Fang_Farrier
IIRC even Ambrose has admitted that he made mistakes in his research for that book. Originally Posted by Bubbles_Barker
You should see what the lads that took Pegasus Bridge thought of Ambrose! Originally Posted by the_boy_syrup
Originally Posted by instinct
Reading through the critique of BoB he seems a bit bitter that they didnt come to him, picking up some realy small mistakes, still very interesting and he knows his stuff. Originally Posted by Speedy
He does a bit but reading this and a few other thing I get the impression Ambrosde managed to fukc quite a few people off
I like his books some of them are a good read but you have to take them as what they are a collection of recolations by veterans who gave oral testomonies to the museum he ran
He's bundled them all together and made a couple of good books
Of course every veterans account differs as he discovered in BoB ( The lad they said died after episode 2 lived for 20 more yaesr and faught in Korea) and Pegasus Bridge
They are not a historically accurate record of WW2
He also caused a bit of contraversy by refusing to remove some of the stuff when contacted
IIRC the story of the Yank Officer puting a pistol to the British Navel Officers head has been disproved but still in the books
IIRC Bando's site recants some of the claims about Bastogne and E Coy holding it single handedly
Well worth a readWe should remember the tremendous contribution of the Queen Mother to the war effort:
As the BBC pointed out, she 'bravely remained in London beside her husband' during the war.
This contrasts sharply with the actions of my grandfather who, on the declaration of war immediately left his wife and children and pissed off, first to France, then North Africa, Italy, France (again) and finally Germany.
The shame will always be with us.
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