Photos from WWI: Christina Broom

**DozyBint** · 16-12-2009, 17:01

An evocative set of photos taken by Christina Broom, regarded as Britain's first female Press photographer. I'd love to see all 2,000 photos that are being auctioned - hopefully the winning bidder will put on a display.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-auction.html

**Mr_Deputy** · 16-12-2009, 17:06

Very good photographs, lots of expression.

**flyingmonkey** · 16-12-2009, 18:42

Excellent link Dozy, thanks.

FM

**Cutaway** · 17-12-2009, 20:53

Yes, very good find Dozy.
I find this one interesting.
Centre of picture, in front of third pile, tall ouen with eyes left.
This Doughboy looks like he's either black or Indian. (as in Injun.)

I didn't think the Septics mixed troops of 'other' colours until after the Second War.
Can anyone confirm or confute this ?

**Ruckerwocman** · 17-12-2009, 21:07

President Harry Truman signed an executive order desegregating the Armed Forces in 1948. Prior to that time Blacks and whites did not serve together in the same unit.
I'm not sure what the deal was for American Indians (we don't like the perjorative term "Injuns") but they did serve in WW I.

**Cutaway** · 17-12-2009, 23:23

Originally Posted by Ruckerwocman

President Harry Truman signed an executive order desegregating the Armed Forces in 1948. Prior to that time Blacks and whites did not serve together in the same unit.
I'm not sure what the deal was for American Indians (we don't like the perjorative term "Injuns") but they did serve in WW I.

Purely to differentiate, (for the Brits,) from people from Injah.

On the other hand, while speaking to a group of members of what the rabbit people now call "Native Americans," those same "Native Americans" said they preffered the term 'Indians.'

As the Septics say - go figure.

**Pararegtom** · 17-12-2009, 23:25

If you look at Max Arthur,s Faces of WW1, you will see many of the photo,s by Cristina Bloom.

**Whiskybreath** · 18-12-2009, 00:46

Good snaps. I saw this one today from an even earlier period, which I rather liked:

They don't like it up 'em, you know.

(from http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ances...heritage/work/)

**Ventress** · 18-12-2009, 02:43

Brilliant link. Hope they set up a link to view the whole collection.

**Gremlin** · 18-12-2009, 02:57

Originally Posted by Whiskybreath

Good snaps. I saw this one today from an even earlier period, which I rather liked:

They don't like it up 'em, you know.

(from http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ances...heritage/work/)

That pic gave me the giggles and like you my first thought was of 'Jonesy'.

Someone clearly did some research into pre-WWI 'accepted stance for weapons drill' when it came to Dad's Army!

**eodmatt** · 18-12-2009, 05:15

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Originally Posted by Whiskybreath

Good snaps. I saw this one today from an even earlier period, which I rather liked:

They don't like it up 'em, you know.

(from http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ances...heritage/work/)

That pic gave me the giggles and like you my first thought was of 'Jonesy'.

Someone clearly did some research into pre-WWI 'accepted stance for weapons drill' when it came to Dad's Army!

I thought it was a pic taken after defence cuts had done away with their horses.

**cupoftea** · 18-12-2009, 07:21

Originally Posted by Cutaway

Yes, very good find Dozy.
I find this one interesting.
Centre of picture, in front of third pile, tall ouen with eyes left.
This Doughboy looks like he's either black or Indian. (as in Injun.)

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I didn't think the Septics mixed troops of 'other' colours until after the Second War.
Can anyone confirm or confute this ?

I suspect that if an octoroon was raised white, talked white, moved white and he was alright no one would ever treat him as anything other than white.

**DavidBOC** · 18-12-2009, 07:24

Originally Posted by Ruckerwocman

President Harry Truman signed an executive order desegregating the Armed Forces in 1948. Prior to that time Blacks and whites did not serve together in the same unit.
I'm not sure what the deal was for American Indians (we don't like the perjorative term "Injuns") but they did serve in WW I.

I cannot find a precise reference but I think that Native Americans were fairly well integrated into the US Army and were not segregated into seperate units like Black Americans although there were some specialized signal units using "Code Talkers" and Scout units in the area of the Mexican border.

I know Chinese were integrated into the Army. My dad served in Boston, billeted in a hotel taken over by the Army and his roomate and best friend in the service Jeff C*** was Chinese. This despite the fact that the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, in effect until 1943 restricted Chinese from immigration and citizenship. It was a product of labor unions pressure on Congress. Even when the law was repealed in '43 Chinese had to have a US citizen sign documents vouching for them when they applied for citizenship. Dad signed for all of Jeff's family and they used to refer to him as their "Godfather". A sad bit of US history that angered my dad until the day he died.

**Speedy** · 18-12-2009, 08:06

Originally Posted by eodmatt

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Originally Posted by Whiskybreath

Good snaps. I saw this one today from an even earlier period, which I rather liked:

They don't like it up 'em, you know.

(from http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ances...heritage/work/)

That pic gave me the giggles and like you my first thought was of 'Jonesy'.

Someone clearly did some research into pre-WWI 'accepted stance for weapons drill' when it came to Dad's Army!

I thought it was a pic taken after defence cuts had done away with their horses.

That's Tidworth, last week!

**Markintime** · 18-12-2009, 08:42

If you notice they're nearly all wearing the SD or 'Crap Hat'. The term was coined because of their colour, laid on the floor they looked like a horse dollop. Some also wear them at a jaunty angle or low on the bridge of the nose, once a soldier!

Reference the swarthy soldier it's equally possible that he was Southern Italian or Spanish or even Galway Irish who tended to have black hair and swarthy complexions.

A good find Dozy, thanks for that.