Originally Posted by rampant

Originally Posted by Sun_Too

Celtic distribution: (Yellow) core Hallstatt territory by the sixth century BC, (Light green and likely also the other shades of green) maximal Celtic expansion by the third century BC, (pale) Lusitanian area of Iberia where Celtic presence is uncertain, (green) the "six Celtic nations" which retained significant numbers of Celtic speakers into the Early Modern period, (dark green) areas where Celtic languages remain widely spoken today.

Indeed: linguistics and place name analysis are a fascinating study in their own right, ofetn proving to be significant indicators of the unknown past.

If we look at the Pictish language which is no longer spoken, nor was written down, except in Ogham, and only then really dealing with the King list we can get to see the extent of Pictish heritage throughout Scotland

for example;

"Aber-" (prefix) = river mouth/estuary
"Pit-" (prefix) = "place/farm/holding"

and many others.

Interestingly, English as a Germanic Language uses Celtic Grammatical structures, one example of which is the way we use verbs in the middle of sentences rather than at the end.

Apparently, many place names in the Lothians have their origins in Old Norse. This is surprising, since it is much further south than the Norse were thought to have raided and settled.

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Apparently, many place names in the Lothians have their origins in Old Norse. This is surprising, since it is much further south than the Norse were thought to have raided and settled.

Indeedy:

http://www.electricscotland.com/books/viking_names.htm

and for those who want to root for more you can find the indicators (prefixes and suffixes) here:

http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswe...vianintro.html

To settle who comes from where bit have a gander

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-sat-nav.html

Originally Posted by tiger stacker

To settle who comes from where bit have a gander

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-sat-nav.html

Interesting. And am I right in saying there are prehistoric "glass" forts where rocks have been fused by a level of heat that should not have been available to people at that time?

Originally Posted by tiger stacker

To settle who comes from where bit have a gander

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-sat-nav.html

Interesting, on the subject of navigation the Vikings used sun compasses to cross the vast seas:

http://www.ips-planetarium.org/plane...es/viking.html

An amazingly simple peice of tech that was also developed by Ralph Bagnold from 1928 and was to prove an invaluable method of navigation during the desert war:

http://www.lrdg.org/Bagnold's%20Bluff.htm

Originally Posted by rampant

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Apparently, many place names in the Lothians have their origins in Old Norse. This is surprising, since it is much further south than the Norse were thought to have raided and settled.

Indeedy:

http://www.electricscotland.com/books/viking_names.htm

and for those who want to root for more you can find the indicators (prefixes and suffixes) here:

http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswe...vianintro.html

Nice one, Rampant. :D

Originally Posted by rampant

Originally Posted by tiger stacker

To settle who comes from where bit have a gander

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-sat-nav.html

Interesting, on the subject of navigation the Vikings used sun compasses to cross the vast seas:

http://www.ips-planetarium.org/plane...es/viking.html

An amazingly simple peice of tech that was also developed by Ralph Bagnold from 1928 and was to prove an invaluable method of navigation during the desert war:

http://www.lrdg.org/Bagnold's%20Bluff.htm

Which is how they managed to find Vineland(America)about five centuries before a chap called Columbus... :D

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Interesting. And am I right in saying there are prehistoric "glass" forts where rocks have been fused by a level of heat that should not have been available to people at that time?

I haven't heard of such things, but glass making was common in the prehistoric era:

http://www.assemblage.group.shef.ac.uk/5/towle.html

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Originally Posted by rampant

Originally Posted by tiger stacker

To settle who comes from where bit have a gander

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-sat-nav.html

Interesting, on the subject of navigation the Vikings used sun compasses to cross the vast seas:

http://www.ips-planetarium.org/plane...es/viking.html

An amazingly simple peice of tech that was also developed by Ralph Bagnold from 1928 and was to prove an invaluable method of navigation during the desert war:

http://www.lrdg.org/Bagnold's%20Bluff.htm

Which is how they managed to find Vineland(America)about five centuries before a chap called Columbus... :D

L'Anse aux Meadows Vinland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland

discovery of which was attributed to Lief Ericcson:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lief_Erikson

Clever buggers them :D

Amazing what can spark an ARRSE Historic debate on the History and Ancestry of the Northern Hemisphere