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JSP 831 is your guide. As has already been said, if your OC has not dealt with the matter as outlined in the JSP, your mate should read the JSP for advice & have the moral courage to follow it.

If he wishes to pm me with an email address I will forward the JSP.

Originally Posted by lancewelljackedoff

""It appears that you are the one driving all of this - do you have your own agenda.""

I don't see how you can arrive at that conclusion other than I am asking questions. I have just never been involved in one before and finding it a very unpleasant situation to find one self in!

The complainant is not on the camp now so is un-aware of the silly games and constant slating of his reputation that is being played out behind his back on a daily basis. We could at the risk of the same treatment inform him but its only going to be hearsay unless we are asked in any interview..if that even happans!

We have had to put up with it for six months and not once been allowed to even mention his name! He is a taboo subject that only the HOD are allowed to bring up and only when to slate him further. Its felt the HODs hold all the cards!

Thanks for your reply all the same.

Failing The Service Test!

Hi there
Thought I would visit this place and give an update without going into the details but for the benefit of anyone considering submitting a redress. I'm now a member of civ div, threw in the towel after what Is saw as nothing more than abuse of the system by a bunch of self serving cowards. I was even threatened by the OC to side against my mate so I thought fuck it!
10 months on and my mates redress has still not reached the CO for consideration.
He took the advice and sent his complaint to the SSC. So far and only after he sent his complaint in to the SCC was a harassment case officer delegated by his CO (a civil servant) outside the chain of command and only after two months , the redress procedures start to kick in.
My self as with other witnesses have now been interviewed by this harassment case officer
what has come out so far.
My mate was never given an assisting officer out side the CofC to help him formulate he complaint properly. So he was being disadvantaged from the very start.
His OC never spoke to any of us about the allegations other then tell us all "it was rubbish" but it has now come to light that he is claiming he conducted an internal investigation and found no evidence. Based on this the CO took no action as he believed the OC. Now we have all been allowed to speak to the harassment case officer a very different picture iscoming out from the bullshit OC first gave to the CO.
The complainant was telling the truth backed up by witnesses and the OC never followed the correct procedures and the complainant was never given an AO to help him.
Anyone with better knowledge know if the OC could be in for a slice. I ask this as the harassment case officer was asking very direct questions about the OC and his role in all this. I know the OC was not part of the complaint but would his actions also be taken into account when this all gets to the point of consideration.

The case officer would not be doing their job if they didn't ask questions, direct or otherwise, about anyone involved in the case so don't add 2 + 2 and come up with 5.

As the person is a WO2 have you considered having a chat with the RSM.

Originally Posted by verticalgyro

You posted this in march and then got out less than three months later? Fuck off you bullshitting cunt and take your bullshitting mate with his imaginary bullying bullshit problem with you.

You can forfeit any resettlement and leave in favour of early release (roughly 3 months!) once terminated.

Do your homework, dear boy!

Originally Posted by blobmeister

You can forfeit any resettlement and leave in favour of early release (roughly 3 months!) once terminated.

Do your homework, dear boy!

Especially as it is 'cheaper' for the Army to do so.

Originally Posted by verticalgyro

You posted this in march and then got out less than three months later? Fuck off you bullshitting cunt and take your bullshitting mate with his imaginary bullying bullshit problem with you.

As blobmeister rightly put it and yes I did just that. Cunt!! Its people with your attitude that makes people think twice before submitting a complaint!


Like I said before I wont go into the finer details for good reasons. I Just wanted to know from people with experience of these things what could be the outcome. The questions about the OCs involvement was more than I had expected and the direction of those questions IMHO was more about the behaviour of the OC towards the complainant and witnesses.

I now have a job and live well away for the place.What I wanted to know for example is could I be called up to a hearing of CM if the OC is dragged in for a slice with the other guy.