been told by my QM it's been put back 4 years and only ATRA units are getting it now.

My #2's are starting to fall to bit and there don't seen to be any more in the system which isn't good when I'm trying to get on a drillies course (supposed to be on one now but had to cancel it at last min due to other commitments).

Is there any truth in this?

Originally Posted by spaz

Originally Posted by westhammad1

Where can we see the pics then ??

The one on the right.

a sergeant with no medal ribbons - not even the QGJM?

Originally Posted by TheSpecialOne

Originally Posted by spaz

Originally Posted by westhammad1

Where can we see the pics then ??

The one on the right.

a sergeant with no medal ribbons - not even the QGJM?

This came up before a while ago and i think either he was ACF or they were a loan set he couldnt get medals mounted on. Someone on here knew him or something so he was kosher.

I got sized up for FAD last week, it's gopping. The material looks like a cross between tweed and something Miss Marple would cut about in whilst investigating murders.

For some strange reason every one of the sizing sets (and there were boxes full of them) had the epaulettes crudely hacked off?

Originally Posted by spaz

I got sized up for FAD last week, it's gopping. The material looks like a cross between tweed and something Miss Marple would cut about in whilst investigating murders.

I would say it just looks like it's from WWI...?

For some strange reason every one of the sizing sets (and there were boxes full of them) had the epaulettes crudely hacked off?

I would imagine that:

1) The mod is skint, so buttons where not required have been banned to cut costs.
2) When being sized up, you don't to put your rank on the stuff, so the epaulette button isn't needed - and is taken off.
3) Somebody decided that the epaulette flapping around looked jack, and dicked somebody to cut them all off.

Either that or the MOD are well and truly skint to the point where even unnecessary fabric is banned, so they've all been cut off for use elsewhere!

Originally Posted by Jerm

This link should take you to the picture: http://www.arrse.co.uk/coppermine/di...ullsize=1.html

At least they got it right in the picture, a male private with 5 medals and a female full screw with none!

Must be Gunners!!

Originally Posted by Gravelbelly

Originally Posted by baby_g

The only thing that was a bit of a disapointment was that the lads were all wearing shoes. I just hope the wearing of them's not enforced once FAD's fully rolled out as I much prefer my ammo boots.

Shoes have never stopped the Jock regiments from parading smartly - they're issued brogues (sorry, "Shoes, Man's, Highland") and once they're double-soled and segs have been added....

Patent leather is the way ahead. Smarter, quicker and probably cheaper.

Originally Posted by dingerr

Originally Posted by Gravelbelly

Originally Posted by baby_g

The only thing that was a bit of a disapointment was that the lads were all wearing shoes. I just hope the wearing of them's not enforced once FAD's fully rolled out as I much prefer my ammo boots.

Shoes have never stopped the Jock regiments from parading smartly - they're issued brogues (sorry, "Shoes, Man's, Highland") and once they're double-soled and segs have been added....

Patent leather is the way ahead. Smarter, quicker and probably cheaper.

How very RAF of you....

Originally Posted by Legs

Originally Posted by dingerr

Patent leather is the way ahead. Smarter, quicker and probably cheaper.

How very RAF of you....

Not at all, work smarter, not harder. Bull had it's place when there was nothing to replace it.

I fail to see the point on spending hours, days or weeks on a pair of boots/shoes for a parade dress that rarely gets worn. The modern Army hardly has time to catch it's breath, it's time to come out of the dark ages. Hour after hour applying polish to a square foot of dead cows behind is just a pointless waste of time.

Originally Posted by dingerr

Originally Posted by Legs

Originally Posted by dingerr

Patent leather is the way ahead. Smarter, quicker and probably cheaper.

How very RAF of you....

Not at all, work smarter, not harder. Bull had it's place when there was nothing to replace it.

I fail to see the point on spending hours, days or weeks on a pair of boots/shoes for a parade dress that rarely gets worn. The modern Army hardly has time to catch it's breath, it's time to come out of the dark ages. Hour after hour applying polish to a square foot of dead cows behind is just a pointless waste of time.

it's probably because all the old farts would go off on a "back in my day it took 3 solid weeks of spit polishing Kiwi Black onto my boots with nothing but an old rag. If we don't keep on giving out this BS to youngsters they'll never became real men! (Nevermind the fact that whilst we're desk jockying they're running round the desert with half their bodyweight on their backs, that'd never make a man of anyone would it?!)"

I'm with Dingerr, in the days when we had 20x as many soldiers as jobs to do, bullsh1t was a fine aspect of life as there wasn't really much else to be doing. Now that we have 20x as many jobs to do as soldiers, every day should consist of doing stuff that will increase the likelihood of mass taliban casualties, not making things shiny that could be bought shiny.

Especially in a day where the biggest 'show yourselves off' parades people seem to do are homecomings which are done in desert boots - which you can't polish - anyway!