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Need help with these if anyone knows what they are would be usefull.
ie: who they represent.
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- 08-09-2012, 18:47 #2Senior Member
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Bottom left is a B Trade badge
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I think the lower left one is a British Army 'B Class Trade' badge from about the 1930s and into the 1960s.
Edited to add : Bugger beaten to it by Joker.Last edited by LancePrivateJones; 08-09-2012 at 18:48. Reason: Addition
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- 08-09-2012, 18:52 #4
Top one is the Alaaf Klub der Rheinländer Berlin, gegr.1875
Now closed it seems but from the Alaaf bit I would say something to do with the Carnival season in Germany.
So probably taken over by this lot
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And well into the 80s by the ACC
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- 08-09-2012, 20:02 #6I agree. Carnival club, a Berlin bear in party rig, but Rhinelander members. Alaarf is Cologne dialect, meaning all up or all out, as in bottoms up, empty your glass. German saturnalia. Originally Posted by Steven
Haven't got a clue about bottom right, a tower above a river, maybe an eagle on top? Single-headed above a wreath? Is there a swastika?Last edited by Brotherton Lad; 08-09-2012 at 20:20.
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- 08-09-2012, 20:23 #7
As regards the ALAAF thing, using Wiki ( Google Translate ) and battling through the Google translation, I get the impression is that the badge is for the Rheinland district of a "Guild of Jesters"*, for whom the recognition call is "Alaaf" - much in the same way as the Home Guard would call "Hi-de-hi" and respond "Ho-di-ho" (well in advance of the TV holiday camp comedy).
*That's my take on the translation, it could be "Company of Fools" or any similar phrase.
During a school exchange visit in 1973, the local town, Altshausen, had its carnival parade. One souvenir I still have of it is a plastic cameo of a jester, this character being the focal point of the parade and presumably a member of the Guild of Jesters."Hurrah for the Works Group" just doesn't have the same ring...
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- 08-09-2012, 20:33 #8
Bit more on the jester theme:
Fasnet
The local tradition of the Swabian-Alemannic carnival called Fasnet can be traced back to 1348. At that time "town-hall dances" were reported, celebrating the end of a pest epidemy.
Every year, the Fasnet season starts with the Gumpige Dunnschdig (Jumpy Thursday) a week before Ash Wednesday. In the evening, the Hemedglonkerumzug (from "hemed" = nightgown in local dialect) takes place, so everybody runs through the streets in pyjamas or nightshirts. This custom symbolizes the awakening of carnival fools.
The main pageant takes place at Sunday. Typical carnival characters of Weingarten are the Plätzler (in a red and white costume, first depicted in 186
, the Lauratal ghosts and the Bockstallnarren ("buck stable fools"). In addition to these local groups, many other carnival groups from the region take part in the pageant.
The Plätzler Guild at Carnival
...and just remembered what the wording was around the plastic cameo - narrenzunft - Fools' Guild.
...and still going strong, it seems: Narrenzunft Altshausen - OHAAAA
Presumably "Oha!" is their equivalent of "Alaaf!"Last edited by putteesinmyhands; 08-09-2012 at 20:38.
"Hurrah for the Works Group" just doesn't have the same ring...
"A volunteer is worth ten pressed men."
So, a TA battalion or nine Regular Guards battalions? Not a difficult choice, then (especially as we don't have nine Regular Guards battalions).
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- 08-09-2012, 20:37 #9
It would be a carnival club for Rheinlanders who were living and working in Berlin between the wars. (cf. London Irish or London Scottish.)
Dug this up:
BBC - h2g2 - Carnival in Germany - A517655
More searching also says that 'Koelle alaaf' means Cologne ueber alles.
Berlin bear with the badge of Cologne:
Last edited by Brotherton Lad; 08-09-2012 at 21:03.
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At risk of being accused of stating the bleeding obvious, the lower right hand side one looks like a WW2 TRF that was worn near the top of the sleeves of the old Battle Dress jacket.
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