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Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

It's going to happen so everyone might as well get used to it. They wouldn't be issuing us all extra pairs of trousers and so many shirts if it wasn't coming!

FAD dress simply isn't practical for use by 'real soldiers'. The only way they'd get round it is for us all to go back to light weights and green shirts.

Originally Posted by crow_bag

FAD dress simply isn't practical for use by 'real soldiers'. The only way they'd get round it is for us all to go back to light weights and green shirts.

I totally agree, but they haven't issued us five shirts and two pairs of trousers because they expect us to wear it once a year for Remembrance.

The first contact anyone in it has with any kind of vehicle, gene etc is going to destroy it. Even if you wear covvies over it then it's going to end up ruined since I assume it's not designed to be worn while crawling around on a Warrior/43.

One interesting question is, since we're going into shoes and not boots, what are the H&S issues with climbing up the side of an armoured vehicle while we're wearing them?

Or, of course, we could have the average regiment going to work in about fourteen different combinations of uniform and footwear dependant on how 'dirty' their job is and how likely they are to fall off something while they're there.

Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

I totally agree, but they haven't issued us five shirts and two pairs of trousers because they expect us to wear it once a year for Remembrance.

The first contact anyone in it has with any kind of vehicle, gene etc is going to destroy it. Even if you wear covvies over it then it's going to end up ruined since I assume it's not designed to be worn while crawling around on a Warrior/43.

One interesting question is, since we're going into shoes and not boots, what are the H&S issues with climbing up the side of an armoured vehicle while we're wearing them?

Or, of course, we could have the average regiment going to work in about fourteen different combinations of uniform and footwear dependant on how 'dirty' their job is and how likely they are to fall off something while they're there.

We'll either go with the lightweights and green shirt option, or we'll just chin it off and stick with combats

Originally Posted by crow_bag

We'll either go with the lightweights and green shirt option, or we'll just chin it off and stick with combats

I admire your optimism mate, but I don't share it. For a start it would make sense which means there's almost no chance of the Army doing it. Sadly I think once they manage to get it out to everyone then we're all going to be wearing it. Individual COs might be able to chin it off but that's only going to last as long as having a CO with common sense does. As soon as you get one who wants to show the Brig how smart his/her Regt/Bn are because they're all going to work in their nice smart Barrack Dress you've had it.

if everybody accepted PCS as it is supposed to be worn and got on with it then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

the fact that to some RSM's - looking 'smart' and wearing PCS incorrectly is more important than feeling good and wearing it correctly, this is our downfall.

those who are defying the CGS now for the sake of stable belts and looking smart are the ones who will drive us into barrack dress.

the bullshit dinosaurs are far from extinct, and they thrive on stable belts.

Originally Posted by royalgreenjacket

if everybody accepted PCS as it is supposed to be worn and got on with it then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

the fact that to some RSM's - looking 'smart' and wearing PCS incorrectly is more important than feeling good and wearing it correctly, this is our downfall.

those who are defying the CGS now for the sake of stable belts and looking smart are the ones who will drive us into barrack dress.

the bullshit dinosaurs are far from extinct, and they thrive on stable belts.

I notice that in the main it only seems to be certain corps that have a problem with it. If Foot Guards regiments can wear the uniform as it's meant to be without pointless bullshit then everyone should be able to.

Originally Posted by royalgreenjacket

if everybody accepted PCS as it is supposed to be worn and got on with it then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

the fact that to some RSM's - looking 'smart' and wearing PCS incorrectly is more important than feeling good and wearing it correctly, this is our downfall.

those who are defying the CGS now for the sake of stable belts and looking smart are the ones who will drive us into barrack dress.

the bullshit dinosaurs are far from extinct, and they thrive on stable belts.

I don't agree that it looks smart up and in. It looks daft just as CS95 and trops look(ed) daft when tucked in. They both looked smarter and more functional out. It looks even worse when it's bunched around the sides and as it inevitably does it, comes untucked at the back when one has been sitting or driving.

The one time I've seen PCS tucked in it really did look like the chap was wearing his shirt tucked into his underpants and that is not a smart look!

exactly - the term 'smart' is what those who prefer to wear PCS tucked-in refer to it as - as they refer to us who wear PCS un-tucked as 'scruffy'.

agreed though BA - the jacket is too thick to be tucked in - aswell as all those velcro strips which sit perfectly when worn un-tucked but insist on riding above your waistline and pushing the front of the jacket out at right angles when you wear it tucked-in - worse on skinny blokes i might add.

how in Gods name are they allowed defy the CGS? i'm sure they do it just to keep this thread going. we could have wrapped this thread up in 4 pages if they just did what they were told FFS.