MTP on 'The One Show' last night.

**warrior8234mkIIIA2** · 18-03-2010, 08:43

Anyone catch this on BBC 1 last night? The show that has the most random features of any show i have seen for a while last night had a pretty interesting feature on the 'new' MTP system of camoflage. It had Phil 'Tuffers' Tuffnell as the reporter and he went along to the gaff where this stuff is developed.

**saladdoger** · 18-03-2010, 18:34

It is on BBC Iplayer. The MTP feature starts at 24 minutes if you dont want to whatch the rest of it.

**Ravers** · 18-03-2010, 18:38

Are there any pics of Christine Bleakley wearing the new combat shirt with it undone to her midriff?

If not why not?

**warrior8234mkIIIA2** · 18-03-2010, 19:42

afraid not, if it was not for her i would not watch it. She is wasted on that programme, she should be doing a more hard core porn programme i reckon, but anyway thats another thread

**tropper66** · 18-03-2010, 20:28

They just had tank legend Joe Ekins on tonight but no mention of his taking out Wittman

**Dollsteeth** · 18-03-2010, 20:43

Slightly off topic but i wasnt aware anyone was credited directly with Killing Wittman though I stand to be corrected.

**tropper66** · 18-03-2010, 21:03

Originally Posted by Dollsteeth

Slightly off topic but i wasnt aware anyone was credited directly with Killing Wittman though I stand to be corrected.

It is now pretty certain the Mr Ekins was the Gunner of the Firefly that took out Wittman, and there are a number of German Referances that say so,Michael Wittmann by Patirick Agte, Meyers History of the 12th SS panzer Division

**purplestar** · 21-03-2010, 01:27

By the looks of the RE, we are definatly going with Olive Green rank slides then?????

**mick4075** · 21-03-2010, 01:41

Back to Wittman; there was recently a show on Discovery channel called Military Mysteries, I think. This assessed the battle and 'proved' that from the position of Mr Ekins' tank, he could only have seen,engaged and destroyed three out of the four vehicles in Wittmans platoon. The fourth was in dead ground to the Fireflys.

The fourth was hit by a Canadian tank unit. This was Wittmans Tiger as it jockeyed for cover.

**Gearspotter** · 21-03-2010, 11:26

Originally Posted by purplestar

By the looks of the RE, we are definatly going with Olive Green rank slides then?????

MTP rank slides are being developed but I suspect they weren't seen as a priority over the other kit.

**tropper66** · 21-03-2010, 11:56

Originally Posted by mick4075

Back to Wittman; there was recently a show on Discovery channel called Military Mysteries, I think. This assessed the battle and 'proved' that from the position of Mr Ekins' tank, he could only have seen,engaged and destroyed three out of the four vehicles in Wittmans platoon. The fourth was in dead ground to the Fireflys.

The fourth was hit by a Canadian tank unit. This was Wittmans Tiger as it jockeyed for cover.

From the war diary of the Schwere SS-Panzer Abteiling101/501,
"Several Canadian Shermans are knocked out. Right outside of Gaumesnil, and third platoon of A.sqn of the 1st Northamptonshire Yeomanry open fire from the flank. The only Sherman Firefly knocks out five Tigers and sets them on fire,there are few survivors, SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Wittmenn and his crew are killed"
Since I got interested in Wittmann back in the 70s I have visited the site and read just about every book about this battle including the War Diarys of the units invovled,( I'm a bit OCD) Wittmann remains were not found untill 1983, and I have been to his grave in LaCambe, I have even read the letter written by Heinz von Westernhagen to Wittmann's widow, Hilde, and even have copys of there wedding photographs

**Dollsteeth** · 21-03-2010, 12:38

Was he killed because he was getting married mid-tank battle?

**mucus2** · 21-03-2010, 19:27

Originally Posted by Dollsteeth

Was he killed because he was getting married mid-tank battle?

I believe it was a cold night.............

**Bravo_Bravo** · 21-03-2010, 19:42

Originally Posted by tropper66

Originally Posted by Dollsteeth

Slightly off topic but i wasnt aware anyone was credited directly with Killing Wittman though I stand to be corrected.

It is now pretty certain the Mr Ekins was the Gunner of the Firefly that took out Wittman, and there are a number of German Referances that say so,Michael Wittmann by Patirick Agte, Meyers History of the 12th SS panzer Division

OT I know but it seems more certain to have been Canadians that did this. History Channel prog, IIRC.

**Mr_Deputy** · 24-03-2010, 11:16

Originally Posted by Bravo_Bravo

Originally Posted by tropper66

Originally Posted by Dollsteeth

Slightly off topic but i wasnt aware anyone was credited directly with Killing Wittman though I stand to be corrected.

It is now pretty certain the Mr Ekins was the Gunner of the Firefly that took out Wittman, and there are a number of German Referances that say so,Michael Wittmann by Patirick Agte, Meyers History of the 12th SS panzer Division

OT I know but it seems more certain to have been Canadians that did this. History Channel prog, IIRC.

I watched that and it make it seem pretty conclusive that a Canuck Sherman took a pot shot from behind a wall in the grounds of a chateau and his Wittman's tank (which British troops burned down later by mistake so is no longer there.) The range, angle etc where all quite conclusive.......except for the fact that the presenter is Canadian and the series could alos be called 'Candians won all the wars for everyone, despite what you heard/know.' ie it may be tad biased.

anyway that chick from the one show is fit isn't she? phhhwoorrr. I'd like to get her out in a wheat field and get in the sights of my 17 pounder so I would.