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    Re: National Defence Medal (NDM)

    Here is one for the Bling catalogue, if the chief of defence staff in an
    official capacity presents private medals, to his political crony mates
    what message does that send out?
    It is complete bollox and he should be taken to task.

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    Re: National Defence Medal (NDM)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fugly
    Quote Originally Posted by badal
    What would happen if the MOD & HD committee decided to award an NDM for 270 days service to regulars (over a period of 10 years)??????????????????
    Eh? How the fuck would that work?
    Easy, just award all NS veterans a medal for 2 years service, and award the same medal to all regular veterans for 4 years service (like the Australians did for the ADM) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Medal

    But instead of naming it an NS medal name it a British NDM. Then this (divisive) excuse the MOD give for not awarding a NS medal could be overcome.

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    'It would be divisive to offer National Servicemen a medal for being conscripted, when those who volunteered for service would be excluded from receiving any award.' http://www.veterans-uk.info/medals/national_serv.html

    By the way all Australian NS veterans have been awarded two medals by their government. An NS medal and an ADM.

    British NS veterans would only be delighted to just receive one single official medal from their MEAN SPIRTED government.

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    Did those NS guys not get a gong if they did a tour?

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    Re: National Defence Medal (NDM)

    Quote Originally Posted by badal
    Quote Originally Posted by TalaveraTom
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    Go on operational tour - Get medal!
    Don't go on tour - Don't get medal!
    Thats for campaign medals. But you can attend 9 out of 10 summer camps, to receive TA bounty and serve 270 days then qualify for: VOLUNTEER RESERVES SERVICE MEDAL
    http://www.britishmedals.info/volunt...ice_medal.html
    Did you bother to read the post above yours when you posted that? All you NDM-campaigners (who seem to have joined ARRSE purely to spout about that single issue) demand reasoned argument but present none of your own and then simply respond to jibes and nothing else.

    To repeat, like the Police Specials medal, the VRSM recognises those who give up significant amounts of what would otherwise be their free time in addition to pursuing a civilian career. In the majority of cases this means far more than 270 days.

    This whole thing just seems to come down to feelings i.e 'I want one' versus 'I don't want one'. Given that there very obviously is not an overwhelming consenus in favour of an NDM, why should the Queen / MOD bother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badal
    Easy, just award all NS veterans a medal for 2 years service, and award the same medal to all regular veterans for 4 years service (like the Australians did for the ADM) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Medal
    It's still a medal for just doing your daily job though isn't it? Total Walter Mitty stuff for walter Mitties such as yourself.

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    Re: National Defence Medal (NDM)

    Quote Originally Posted by wedge35
    To repeat, like the Police Specials medal, the VRSM recognises those who give up significant amounts of what would otherwise be their free time in addition to pursuing a civilian career. In the majority of cases this means far more than 270 days.
    I've given up 9125 days so far of what could have been my free time. So why should weekend warriors get a medal for attending the odd drill night?

    One Army? Yeah, the bits that they want!!

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    Re: National Defence Medal (NDM)

    Quote Originally Posted by AFA06
    Quote Originally Posted by wedge35
    To repeat, like the Police Specials medal, the VRSM recognises those who give up significant amounts of what would otherwise be their free time in addition to pursuing a civilian career. In the majority of cases this means far more than 270 days.
    I've given up 9125 days so far of what could have been my free time. So why should weekend warriors get a medal for attending the odd drill night?

    One Army? Yeah, the bits that they want!!
    You get the LS&GC for, you know, that full-time career that you volunteered for.
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    Re: National Defence Medal (NDM)

    Quote Originally Posted by wedge35
    Quote Originally Posted by AFA06
    Quote Originally Posted by wedge35
    To repeat, like the Police Specials medal, the VRSM recognises those who give up significant amounts of what would otherwise be their free time in addition to pursuing a civilian career. In the majority of cases this means far more than 270 days.
    I've given up 9125 days so far of what could have been my free time. So why should weekend warriors get a medal for attending the odd drill night?

    One Army? Yeah, the bits that they want!!
    You get the LS&GC for, you know, that full-time career that you volunteered for.
    Only if you are a good boy - do the weekend warriors get their bit of tin still if they are charged??

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    Re: National Defence Medal (NDM)

    Quote Originally Posted by AFA06
    Only if you are a good boy - do the weekend warriors get their bit of tin still if they are charged??
    The LS&GC medal is made from silver. Facts right and all that!

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    Re: National Defence Medal (NDM)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager
    Quote Originally Posted by badal
    Easy, just award all NS veterans a medal for 2 years service, and award the same medal to all regular veterans for 4 years service (like the Australians did for the ADM) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Medal
    It's still a medal for just doing your daily job though isn't it? Total Walter Mitty stuff for walter Mitties such as yourself.
    So you are calling Australian VC holder Trooper Mark Donaldson who carried the poppy wreath that the Queen laid on the tomb of the Unknown Warrior in Westminster Abbey a walter middy eh? He was wearing an Australian Defence Medal for four years service in the ADF. See photo.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8355551.stm

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