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    Senior Member Dr_Evil's Avatar
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    Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    The killing off of the TA.mod.uk website, subsuming it into the new Armyjobs.mod.uk one, has made finding out about the TA much more difficult.

    In particular, it is much harder for potential recruits to find out for themselves which units are local to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Evil, on another thread
    Prior to 1 April 2007, someone interested in joining their local TA could do the following:

    1. Google "Territorial Army"
    2. Click on the TA website, www.ta.mod.uk
    3. Type their postcode into TA Near You on the TA website home page and click "search" on the same page, and be presented with a list of nearby TA units

    Since 1 April 2007, the steps are:

    1. Google "Territorial Army"
    2. Click on "Join the Territorial Army (at the bottom of the screen)
    3. Click on "Contact us" (that's if you already know what you're looking for - it ain't obvious)
    4. Click on "In Your Area"
    5. On the new page that appears, enter postcode and click "Search"
    6. If it works, as is not currently the case a list of all Army institutions nearby appears. About 10 A4 pages' worth of scrolling later, beneath the Army Cadets, the AFCOs, the ACIOs, the Army Medical Services, Regular Army units, etc., etc., you reach a list of nearby TA units.
    The ability to find out which TA units are local to one's area is vital to our ability to recruit. Several posters on various threads on Arrse have pointed out how hard it now is to get that info.

    So, bearing in mind that the new Armyjobs site has been up and running, and doing its destructive business (from the TA's point of view) for two and a half months with no sign of an easily-accessible "TA Near You" function, I've had an idea.

    Go guerilla.

    Are there any technotypes out there who could tell me how hard (or not) it would be to produce something using Google Maps which would perform the same function?

    I've read about Google Maps "mashups" which combine info from various sites onto Maps in a richer, interactive way. See for examplehere.

    All we would need is for the locations of all TA units and subunits to be plotted onto a searchable Google map. Not as hard as it sounds.

    For the newbie, the steps would then be:

    1. Google "Territorial Army"
    2. Click on "Territorial Army Near You - a Google Map site" (there are tricks I know of to get that new site high on the list you would get from Google)
    3. Enter postcode
    4. Bam - an interactive map with placemarkers showing local TA units. Place mouse pointer over them and you get info about the unit and a hyperlink to their website.

    If you know how to do this, PM me.

    I am damned if I am going to let that fcking mess of a One Army recruiting website knacker our internet-based recruiting.

    Are you with me?
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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    Herr Evil, not that hard at all - we'd simply need to know the location of all TAC's and the units there-in - I imagine this is easy enough to get hold of.

    One thing that may be an issue here is security, but if the information is in the public domain then there can't be too much of an issue.

    You'd also be looking at registering a domain name (10 quid tops) and then hosting - I run a small internet coy so would be happy to host FOC; we could also look to outside advertisers if we need to bring in revenue to cover costs.

    PM if you want to talk further.

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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    Duly PM'd - wanted to post an update here.

    Right, we'll basgy a domain name. Then we'll invite TA units to send us the following info:

    Unit/subunit name
    Address
    Phone
    Fax
    Website URL
    Recruiting team email

    As this is a service we would be providing to TA units to enhance their web-based recruiting, the onus will be on them to provide us with the info.

    The end result should look a bit like the BBC website I linked to in my original post.

    Oh, and by the way: message to One Army Recruiting Nazis - you will never keep up with us. NEVER!
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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    Quote Originally Posted by danglydell
    Herr Evil, not that hard at all - we'd simply need to know the location of all TAC's and the units there-in - I imagine this is easy enough to get hold of.

    One thing that may be an issue here is security, but if the information is in the public domain then there can't be too much of an issue.

    You'd also be looking at registering a domain name (10 quid tops) and then hosting - I run a small internet coy so would be happy to host FOC; we could also look to outside advertisers if we need to bring in revenue to cover costs.

    PM if you want to talk further.
    Dr Evil has come up with an excellent idea, particularly in this modern internet-dependent society.

    With regard to security, surely the fact that TACs have big signs outside them advertising what unit is within must render this info UNCLAS.
    "Hurrah for the Works Group" just doesn't have the same ring...

    "A volunteer is worth ten pressed men."
    So, a TA battalion or nine Regular Guards battalions? Not a difficult choice, then (especially as we don't have nine Regular Guards battalions).

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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    I'm loving it.

    Why not go one step further, and make our own part-time army?

    TB
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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    Reserves a poor relation once again - its up there with the fact they they forgot about the TA when they looked at JPA! Looks like we were an after thought on the Armyjobs website - and with the TA name and identity all but gone - we will all be regulars next - one way to deal with a manning crisis -0 I guess!

    Good call chaps keep up the good work

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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    TB,

    Just wait.

    Dr E
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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    Sounds like a good idea! Well done Dr Evil.

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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    Good plan Dr E.

    I have voiced my disquiet about the official site to the recruiting ninja in our Bde, and he has promised to staff it up the chain to his boss.

    However, that may take time.

    Carpe diem!

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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    FB,

    Staffing up chains has been going on since the start of May, as the impact of the cr@p new site was felt immediately by any TA unit with an active web recruiting campaign.

    It's now been two and a half months. Too slow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie/Nuwanda
    Chaos screaming, chaos dreaming. Gotta do more! Gotta be more!
    I'll post the URL for the new site as soon as we have set it up (should be within the day). That site will list the info we need from TA units/subunits in order to create the searchable map.

    Dr E
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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    will it save £2.5m?
    Have Faith....it'll all be OK in the end (but then again, with the GCM and FR2020, maybe it won't be.....).

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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    How much was the One Army Recruiting web spend for the last year? In 2005, the TV and associated bumf budget for the Army was £15.3m: see here.

    In fact, hand that site over to me and disband the RFCAs. I will keep the change left over from £2.5m per annum to fund my private Army.

    It will be called Dr Evil's Army Reserve - but I promise you, life in it won't be dreary! Arf!
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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    May also be worth utilising Google Earth as well as Google Maps. There’s a rather handy overlay thing accessible through ArmyNet which plots the location of most RLC units and offers the facility to contact the webmaster to update your own unit’s details.

    Relies on people actually getting off their backsides but is quite a nifty resource.

    ArmyNet main page >> RLC >> Google Earth Resource for a demo.

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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    Good idea DrE!

    I never realised how much of a bollox up it was until I went to look up the units in and around Belfast (for my mate who is thinking of joining..). I got there, but by f**k it took a while.

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    Re: Creating a new TA Near You - help and info needed

    [quote="Dr_Evil"]How much was the One Army Recruiting web spend for the last year? In 2005, the TV and associated bumf budget for the Army was £15.3m: see here.

    quote]

    Ah yes, but the ONE ARMY can spend what it wants, while the otherONE ARMY get stripped to the bare, then fcuked up the ass everytime there is money to be saved! CUNTS
    If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all. Thank heaven for small mercies!!

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