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Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

You've answered your own question there Trigger

During an interview can you ask a woman if she intends to get pregnant?
Is there any difference between going on tour and taking maternity leave from a business perspective?


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Originally Posted by Cloggie

..... the new set up where they want to have more TA than regulars.

Not quite. Army 2020 envisages capacity of 82,000 for the Regular Army and 30,000 for the Reserves being reached by 2018.

Originally Posted by Eyes_of_God

During an interview can you ask a woman if she intends to get pregnant?
Is there any difference between going on tour and taking maternity leave from a business perspective?

Well as a species we require women to get pregnant occasionally to survive so yes, from a business point of view maternity leave is a necessary evil to ensure that the human race continues and provides the next generation of customers.

What advantage does a business get from a part time soldier going on tour, unless the 3rd Shock Army happens to be coming ashore at Dover?

Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

Well as a species we require women to get pregnant occasionally to survive so yes, from a business point of view maternity leave is a necessary evil to ensure that the human race continues and provides the next generation of customers.

What advantage does a business get from a part time soldier going on tour, unless the 3rd Shock Army happens to be coming ashore at Dover?

Well I’ve been promoted at work since going on tour.
Apparently I returned with plenty of soft skills in abundance; management, leadership, maturity…
Read into that what you will.

I would argue that companies are not as forward thinking as you. That they don’t consider the procreation of our species as a business requirement. That women are only able to take a year out to sprog because it’s a legal requirement.

So if we can’t discriminate against fertile women, why should we be able to discriminate against STABs?
Let’s be honest, most TA don’t stick their hands up for a tour.

Originally Posted by Eyes_of_God

So if we can’t discriminate against fertile women, why should we be able to discriminate against STABs?
Let’s be honest, most TA don’t stick their hands up for a tour.

Because pregnant women are slimmer and whine less than most STABs.

Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

Because pregnant women are slimmer and whine less than most STABs.

That I can’t deny

Originally Posted by jimmys_best_mate

What advantage does a business get from a part time soldier going on tour, unless the 3rd Shock Army happens to be coming ashore at Dover?

One could ask what use the rest of us would get from the regular army if indeed, the 3rd Shock Army comes ashore at Dover. I'm not having a go, seriously pick our entire armed forces from a time of your choosing, still fucked.

The thing about this is, if you need legislation to protect people then you're fucked before you even start. There are so many ways firms (or more likely, a manager somewhere in your hierarchy) can entirely fuck you over and you'll be able to prove absolutely none of it at employment tribunal that legislation is useless. Then of course there is the reputational risk of bringing the claim, entirely too risky for many. "So tell me, why did you leave your last job", "sued them", "NEXT!"

I share some of the cynicism about this particular idea.

Some employers may indeed cheat the system. As a huge generalisation, smaller employers may be caused the greatest difficulty, and therefore smaller employers who could have the greatest motive to find a way round the rule.

However, it's nonsense to suggest that employment legislation has no effect in the workplace.

The MoD will be carrying out a consultation in the Autumn, primarily with employers, but anyone can respond to it. I hope some of the points here will not be overlooked. Members views requested - Reserve Forces - 'Companies to be banned from asking if potential employees are TA Reservists' | from BAFF